Sir Oswald P Wrong

LoL at this one.

After 2 weeks of bleating on and on and on about the sanctity of the
contract the Bulldog$ are now lining up for a bucketload of frog cash
like SBW did.

Seems that the offer of money, and lots of it, affects everyone in
rugby league.

A bit of Franc advise to the Bullfrog$, you can only sell out once, so
get your best price.

That's my tip.

http://www.stuff.co.nz/4656346a1823.html


Sonny Bill compo deal looms
By BRAD WALTER, GLENN JACKSON and BELLINDA KONTOMINAS - SMH | Friday,
15 August 2008

A compensation deal is set to end the Sonny Bill Williams stand-off
saga between his former Canterbury rugby league club in Sydney and his
new French rugby union club, Toulon.

Williams, who fled to France, despite having four years to run on his
NRL contract with Canterbury, had been due to play in a Toulon trial
this morning (NZ time) but did not take the field.

"A financial settlement is going to be found at the beginning of next
week," Toulon president

Williams did not play so as not to "inflame the situation," Boudjellal
added in reference to a New South Wales Supreme Court ruling which
forbade Williams to play for his club.

In Sydney yesterday, Williams' former Canterbury Bulldogs teammate
Hazem El Masri has admitted he felt the club may have been cursed in
recent times.

With Williams's shock departure the latest in a string of dramas at
the Bulldogs as they edge closer to the wooden spoon, El Masri
conceded the club was at its lowest point in his 13-year career.

"The whole year's been tough," El Masri said. "You go through ups and
downs, but it probably doesn't get any lower than this.

"It's amazing what things keep popping up. This is just another one. I
think someone has just cursed the club over the last five years. I
don't think it could get any worse.

"But every club goes through some tough times. You rebuild."

But El Masri refused to be critical of Williams for walking out on the
club just one year into a five-year contract, saying: "The bottom line
is it's up to him. He said he had his reasons. That's the way things
go. He went about it his way … although I would have never done it
that way."

El Masri made the comments on a day in which lawyers representing the
Bulldogs and the NRL foreshadowed in court that they would begin
contempt proceedings against Williams that could result in him facing
jail or having his assets seized.

Toulon officials yesterday rejected the claims made in court that
legal papers had been served on Williams after his debut last week in
a continuation of the hardline stance adapted by the club's owner
Mourad Boudjellal.

"That's absolute rubbish," a Toulon source told AAP.

"They haven't handed any papers to him, definitely not. I don't know
where they stand legally, but they [the NRL] seem to be making a lot
of noise because they can't do much more than that."

Boudjellal went further by suggesting that Williams's shock walk-out
and code switch was related to wider problems at the Bulldogs, a club
he didn't even know existed six months ago.

"When something like this happens, it's not just the the fault of the
club or just the fault of the player - it's normally a bit of both.
It's more complicated than that," he said on the club's website.

"If I was the president of the Bulldogs [George Peponis], the first
question I would ask myself is why has a player left the club in these
conditions?

"If Sonny Bill left us after being disgusted at what's been going on,
why? If he's disgusted about what's been going on, perhaps other
players are as well.

"Perhaps he [Peponis] should try and sort out his problems.

"Obviously, the easiest thing for everyone to say is that it's [about]
money but that means you can avoid asking yourself the hard questions.
But it doesn't mean it's as easy as that. There's a lot more to it
than money."

Asked about the possibility of Williams being arrested, Boudjellal
said: "Obviously the French don't have the same culture as Australia
because, I'd suggest, getting arrested for that … there are a lot of
far more shocking things in the world which go on that you would get
arrested for before that".


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Oswald P Wrong
World Champion Tipster.

Ian George

Sir Oswald P Wrong wrote:
> LoL at this one.
>
> After 2 weeks of bleating on and on and on about the sanctity of the
> contract the Bulldog$ are now lining up for a bucketload of frog cash
> like SBW did.
>
> Seems that the offer of money, and lots of it, affects everyone in
> rugby league.
>
> A bit of Franc advise to the Bullfrog$, you can only sell out once, so
> get your best price.
>
> That's my tip.

Jeeze, and there I was thinking the court case was going to be abut
ethics...

'n

Geraint Vincent }:c{»

On Aug 15, 7:24*am, Sir Oswald P Wrong
<ossiepwr...@spamawayexposures.co.nz> wrote:
> LoL at this one.
>
> After 2 weeks of bleating on and on and on about the sanctity of the
> contract the Bulldog$ are now lining up for a bucketload of frog cash
> like SBW did.
>
> Seems that the offer of money, and lots of it, affects everyone in
> rugby league.
>
> A bit of Franc advise to the Bullfrog$, you can only sell out once, so
> get your best price.
>
> That's my tip.

This is what I thought all along, that they could get some money out
of it if they made enough noise.

Bunny

"Ian George" <ianwho@yugswen.com> wrote in message
news:ni2pk.28350$IK1.13304@news-server.bigpond.net.au...
> Sir Oswald P Wrong wrote:
>> LoL at this one.
>>
>> After 2 weeks of bleating on and on and on about the sanctity of the
>> contract the Bulldog$ are now lining up for a bucketload of frog cash
>> like SBW did.
>>
>> Seems that the offer of money, and lots of it, affects everyone in
>> rugby league.
>>
>> A bit of Franc advise to the Bullfrog$, you can only sell out once, so
>> get your best price.
>>
>> That's my tip.
>
> Jeeze, and there I was thinking the court case was going to be abut
> ethics...
>
> 'n
>

As it turns out, it has been.

john smith

"Geraint Vincent }:c{»" <asrl_gv@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:e60097f4-ed35-4d9b-9904-d531e7f8bb14@r15g2000prd.googlegroups.com...
On Aug 15, 7:24 am, Sir Oswald P Wrong
<ossiepwr...@spamawayexposures.co.nz> wrote:
> LoL at this one.
>
> After 2 weeks of bleating on and on and on about the sanctity of the
> contract the Bulldog$ are now lining up for a bucketload of frog cash
> like SBW did.
>
> Seems that the offer of money, and lots of it, affects everyone in
> rugby league.
>
> A bit of Franc advise to the Bullfrog$, you can only sell out once, so
> get your best price.
>
> That's my tip.

This is what I thought all along, that they could get some money out
of it if they made enough noise.

And why not?????. A good recompense I think,much like transfer fees in the
UK soccer.

Dion Williams

"Sir Oswald P Wrong" <ossiepwrong@spamawayexposures.co.nz> wrote in message
news:m389a4to0pmoc88co5q72brul07k7nr2j4@4ax.com...
>
> LoL at this one.
>
> After 2 weeks of bleating on and on and on about the sanctity of the
> contract the Bulldog$ are now lining up for a bucketload of frog cash
> like SBW did.
>
> Seems that the offer of money, and lots of it, affects everyone in
> rugby league.
>
> A bit of Franc advise to the Bullfrog$, you can only sell out once, so
> get your best price.

I think you'll find it was Steve Folkes and the players who had the luxury
of talking about the sanctity of the contract, besides the usual chorus of
armchair critics in the media. That's because it's not their money going
down the drain. The administration at any club that has an interest in
staying afloat don't get paid to put on rose coloured glasses and reminisce
about the days when a man's word was the seal on an agreement. A lightning
rod for club merchandise sales, sponsorship and gates has vanished without
notice leaving the club to spend considerable unbudgeted time and money to
first replace him and then rejig the entire team's plan for next season with
a rookie coach in charge. All with considerable suspicion that he was
coerced to it by the entity in question. A player of that profile and impact
on your roster costs a lot more in time and money than just paying him each
week to score tries.

Regardless of the ethics of the money, the administration knows the football
club can't stretch its efforts much further. The young players forced into
first grade over the last few weeks could hardly have had less ideal
circumstances to make their debuts. With half the regular team sitting on
the sidelines, they hardly needed a national media storm descending on them
to keep their minds on football. It's hardly fair that the lopsided
scorelines of the last month or so will be held against their names. By
choosing the quick way out the administration has at least allowed them and
the fans to see an ignominious season out in relative peace.

Dion

John Heath

On Aug 15, 9:23*pm, "Dion Williams" <onamiss...@exemail.com.au> wrote:
> "Sir Oswald P Wrong" <ossiepwr...@spamawayexposures.co.nz> wrote in messagenews:m389a4to0pmoc88co5q72brul07k7nr2j4@4ax .com...
>
> > LoL at this one.
>
> > After 2 weeks of bleating on and on and on about the sanctity of the
> > contract the Bulldog$ are now lining up for a bucketload of frog cash
> > like SBW did.
>
> > Seems that the offer of money, and lots of it, affects everyone in
> > rugby league.
>
> > A bit of Franc advise to the Bullfrog$, you can only sell out once, so
> > get your best price.
>
> I think you'll find it was Steve Folkes and the players who had the luxury
> of talking about the sanctity of the contract, besides the usual chorus of
> armchair critics in the media. That's because it's not their money going
> down the drain. The administration at any club that has an interest in
> staying afloat don't get paid to put on rose coloured glasses and reminisce
> about the days when a man's word was the seal on an agreement. A lightning
> rod for club merchandise sales, sponsorship and gates has vanished without
> notice leaving the club to spend considerable unbudgeted time and money to
> first replace him and then rejig the entire team's plan for next season with
> a rookie coach in charge. All with considerable suspicion that he was
> coerced to it by the entity in question. A player of that profile and impact
> on your roster costs a lot more in time and money than just paying him each
> week to score tries.
>
> Regardless of the ethics of the money, the administration knows the football
> club can't stretch its efforts much further.

"Regardless of the ethics ..." - classic cop-out introduction. Why not
just agree that the Dogs have abandoned the moral high ground (and
really, who could be less suited for keeping it long-term)?

> The young players forced into first grade over the last few weeks could hardly
> have had less ideal circumstances to make their debuts. With half the regular
> team sitting on the sidelines, they hardly needed a national media storm
> descending on them to keep their minds on football. It's hardly fair thatthe
> lopsided scorelines of the last month or so will be held against their names.

Bullshit. Once you cross the stripe, everything else fails to matter a
jot. It is then perfectly fair that the players given
hidings are accorded the dubious honour of having those scorelines
held against them.

> By choosing the quick way out the administration has at least allowed them and
> the fans to see an ignominious season out in relative peace.
>
> Dion

You're saying that adopting a small-target policy in preference to
following a principled path is OK. If the abandonment of principle is
hunky dory, then the Bulldogs can jam all this hand-wringing fair up
their arses.

It's fair enough to take a pragmatic approach - SBW's position at
****erbury was clearly untenable so something had to be worked out -
but it would be nice if the Dogs in future leave the self-righteous
bleating of the talentless left-behinds where it belongs, in New
Zealand.

Sir Oswald P Wrong

On Thu, 14 Aug 2008 18:17:47 -0700 (PDT), Geraint Vincent }:c{»
<asrl_gv@hotmail.com> wrote:

>On Aug 15, 7:24*am, Sir Oswald P Wrong
><ossiepwr...@spamawayexposures.co.nz> wrote:
>> LoL at this one.
>>
>> After 2 weeks of bleating on and on and on about the sanctity of the
>> contract the Bulldog$ are now lining up for a bucketload of frog cash
>> like SBW did.
>>
>> Seems that the offer of money, and lots of it, affects everyone in
>> rugby league.
>>
>> A bit of Franc advise to the Bullfrog$, you can only sell out once, so
>> get your best price.
>>
>> That's my tip.
>
>This is what I thought all along, that they could get some money out
>of it if they made enough noise.

I learned long ago in any disputes like this to ignore the emotional
claptrap and focus on the real facts. When you look at both sides of
any argument the solution is usually pretty obvious, as it was in this
case.

The relationship broke down and you can burn a lot of money
apportioning blame, but at the end of the day life needs to go on.

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Oswald P Wrong
World Champion Tipster.

Sir Oswald P Wrong

On Fri, 15 Aug 2008 21:23:42 +1000, "Dion Williams"
<onamission@exemail.com.au> wrote:

>"Sir Oswald P Wrong" <ossiepwrong@spamawayexposures.co.nz> wrote in message
>news:m389a4to0pmoc88co5q72brul07k7nr2j4@4ax.com.. .
>>
>> LoL at this one.
>>
>> After 2 weeks of bleating on and on and on about the sanctity of the
>> contract the Bulldog$ are now lining up for a bucketload of frog cash
>> like SBW did.
>>
>> Seems that the offer of money, and lots of it, affects everyone in
>> rugby league.
>>
>> A bit of Franc advise to the Bullfrog$, you can only sell out once, so
>> get your best price.
>
>I think you'll find it was Steve Folkes and the players who had the luxury
>of talking about the sanctity of the contract, besides the usual chorus of
>armchair critics in the media. That's because it's not their money going
>down the drain. The administration at any club that has an interest in
>staying afloat don't get paid to put on rose coloured glasses and reminisce
>about the days when a man's word was the seal on an agreement. A lightning
>rod for club merchandise sales, sponsorship and gates has vanished without
>notice leaving the club to spend considerable unbudgeted time and money to
>first replace him and then rejig the entire team's plan for next season with
>a rookie coach in charge. All with considerable suspicion that he was
>coerced to it by the entity in question. A player of that profile and impact
>on your roster costs a lot more in time and money than just paying him each
>week to score tries.
>
>Regardless of the ethics of the money, the administration knows the football
>club can't stretch its efforts much further. The young players forced into
>first grade over the last few weeks could hardly have had less ideal
>circumstances to make their debuts. With half the regular team sitting on
>the sidelines, they hardly needed a national media storm descending on them
>to keep their minds on football. It's hardly fair that the lopsided
>scorelines of the last month or so will be held against their names. By
>choosing the quick way out the administration has at least allowed them and
>the fans to see an ignominious season out in relative peace.
>
>Dion
>

I know it's a waste of time expecting the Bulldogs to change but
hopefully next time they want the signature of a pin up boy to add to
their hypefest in order to sell T-Shirts and Beer Mugs they'll
actually honour the things they say to him as they try and induce him
to signing on for 5 years.

If they don't we'll see more of this and people will get pretty fed up
with the Bulldogs bleating about the sanctity of the contract when
really. this was always only about money for them.

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Oswald P Wrong
World Champion Tipster.

Big_Fella

"Bunny" <bunny.rabbitoh@y7mail.com> wrote in message
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>
> "Ian George" <ianwho@yugswen.com> wrote in message
> news:ni2pk.28350$IK1.13304@news-server.bigpond.net.au...
>> Sir Oswald P Wrong wrote:
>>> LoL at this one.
>>>
>>> After 2 weeks of bleating on and on and on about the sanctity of the
>>> contract the Bulldog$ are now lining up for a bucketload of frog cash
>>> like SBW did.
>>>
>>> Seems that the offer of money, and lots of it, affects everyone in
>>> rugby league.
>>>
>>> A bit of Franc advise to the Bullfrog$, you can only sell out once, so
>>> get your best price.
>>>
>>> That's my tip.
>>
>> Jeeze, and there I was thinking the court case was going to be abut
>> ethics...
>>
>> 'n
>>
>
> As it turns out, it has been.
>
No, no . . . not about " 'e's thick ". Jeez, we'd all be stuffed were that
the case.
}:-)