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Old 5th September 2008, 08:23 PM   #31 (permalink)
zog
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Re: The Great HDMI Cable Scam

Atheist Chaplain wrote:
> "Snapper" <snapper1@y7mail.com.invalid> wrote in message
> news:4m20c4p6cqfaeef06kisospis61lmigeq8@yarwho.com ...
>> Nighthawk wrote...
>>
>>> Very good. But to get to the video I had to go through this link:
>>> http://www.cbc.ca/marketplace/2008/0...king_the_deal/ and I only
>>> got audio. But it was still good.

>> I can't view it as I'm currently on a PC that doesn't have a net
>> connection,

>
> just a quick question, if you dont have a net connection, how are you
> posting your reply??
> ;-)
>


yeah I wondering that myself
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Old 5th September 2008, 08:23 PM   #32 (permalink)
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Re: The Great HDMI Cable Scam

Snapper wrote:
> GDS wrote...
>
>> Although there's always going to be someone try to justify getting ripped off by a
>> salesman saying "well I can see the difference", the simple fact is so long as the HDMI
>> cable meets the minimum specifications there will be zero observable difference on the
>> screen and through the audio device.

>
> As I get older, crankier (if I said "cranky" those that know me would howl me
> down) and more cynical, I am increasingly convinced that employers hire people
> as sales people not because of their product knowledge but because they can sell
> freezers to Eskimos (fridges they do need).
>
> Whether this is about the fellow in Harvey Norman trying to tell you that
> Monster cable products are worth the $100 v a $15 cable from DSE, or some guy in
> Bunnings trying to tell you that Hardiplank products are the same as timber
> weatherboards, or the kid in Jaycar the other day trying to tell me that
> component video was the same as RGB when I was in there looking for an RGB/SCART
> to component converter, they all have demonstrated a decided lack of product
> knowledge.
>


yep, you could probably trace that back to companies like maccas who
only employ untrained kids who once past a certain age are booted out
because their wage group would cut into the almighty profit dollar and
shareholders dividends.

and thanks to companies abandoning Australia for cheap (read slave
labour) overseas countries we are losing the skills that keeps us self
sustainable.

where **** did we go wrong?

from another old cranky pissed off old bastard
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Old 5th September 2008, 11:04 PM   #33 (permalink)
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Re: The Great HDMI Cable Scam

zog wrote:

> where **** did we go wrong?


pure, unmitigated greed, and the worship of it.

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Old 6th September 2008, 08:52 AM   #34 (permalink)
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Re: The Great HDMI Cable Scam

Atheist Chaplain wrote...

> just a quick question, if you dont have a net connection, how are you
> posting your reply??


When I posted the questions I didn't have a net connection. I dialed in to
upload my posts in batches. Otherwise I would have merely clicked on the link.


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Old 6th September 2008, 12:31 PM   #35 (permalink)
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Re: The Great HDMI Cable Scam


"Nighthawk" <nighthawk@allo.com> wrote in message
news:gbgvb459focsbn0636qqhsgkavahsdai9h@4ax.com...
> On Thu, 4 Sep 2008 16:34:46 +0930, "GDS" <fake.mail@ii.net> wrote:
>
>>
>>
>>"Nighthawk" <nighthawk@allo.com> wrote in message
>>news:cdusb4pfad2npqo12rbfpq3t2k47el8dol@4ax.com. ..
>>>
>>> Very good. But to get to the video I had to go through this link:
>>> http://www.cbc.ca/marketplace/2008/0...king_the_deal/ and I only
>>> got audio. But it was still good.

>>
>>It's a shame you couldn't see the video, sounds like it might be a
>>browser/media player
>>problem? I'm using IE6 which launched WMP9, following your link worked
>>also.
>>
>>Still, even without the link and doing your own research you've saved
>>yourself $100-$200,
>>not a bad days saving!
>>
>>G.
>>

> I normally use Win98SE Lite, with either Firefox or Opera, NEVER IE.
> I use Windows Media Classic, no WMP9 installed. I can boot into XP
> where I have the very latest versions of Firefox and Opera, WMP9, and
> where I will NOT use IE. Neither of those would work at all with that
> video link. It is rare that a video link doesn't work for me. That
> says something about their setup. For one thing, the video file
> wasn't downloadable, bad news if you only have 256kbps broadband.


They are using Akamai file servers to avoid network congestion problems.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Akamai_Technologies
When I watched the video it was served very quickly from a local mirror.



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Old 6th September 2008, 03:21 PM   #36 (permalink)
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Re: The Great HDMI Cable Scam


"zog" <zog@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:48c0f2db$0$31801$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.a u...
> ozbno wrote:
>>
>> "Nighthawk" <nighthawk@allo.com> wrote in message

>
>>>>
>>> I normally use Win98SE Lite, with either Firefox or Opera, NEVER IE.

>>
>>
>> Why never IE?
>> I've got IE7 in XP SP2 and have no problems.
>> What problems have you had???
>>

>
> ummm because it's rubbish made by a rubbish company, antitrust,
> doesn't conform to established web standards, allows virus hacks in
> from dodgy websites just to name a few.
>


I've had no "virus hacks", and I'm not even using anti-viral software.
Maybe you're just too careless when online.

So what do you mean by "rubbish", "established web standards" and
"antitrust" ????

I've had no problems at all and I'm avery happy with the performance.






Warmest Regards

Bonzo

: "They don't tell you, that, in their computer models, it's assumed
that CO2 drives global warming. In other words, you assume the result
and say the computer model proves we were right. It's garbage in,
garbage out. If you don't program the computers to cause temperatures to
rise with CO2, then you have nothing." Dr. Don J. Easterbrook, Professor
Emeritus Geology, Western Washington University

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Old 6th September 2008, 03:21 PM   #37 (permalink)
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"bassett" <bassett@bassettskennel.com.au> wrote in message
news:48c0f327$3@dnews.tpgi.com.au...
>
> "Mutley" <mutley90210REMOVE@hotmail.REMOVEcom> wrote in message
> news:hr8vb41lbc08ac4kpglokhpr7ca0jpn5og@4ax.com...
>> "J Brockley" <jsbrockley@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>>"Nighthawk" <nighthawk@allo.com> wrote in message
>>>news:uf8sb4ls64lm2vge3q2s6hqto051ifdjt0@4ax.com ...
>>>> Google 'HDMI scam'. Quite an eye opener. While looking around for
>>>> a
>>>> 32" LCD and DVD player, in many places I was told that for
>>>> upscaling
>>>> to work I needed an HDMI cable. No arguments there. But most
>>>> places
>>>> said I needed a good one, one certified to certain levels, etc. I
>>>> was
>>>> told that the starting price of HDMI cables was, (NZ prices) in one
>>>> shop, $50, in another, $99. I was recommended to get one for $169,
>>>> another salesman recommended a $300 cable, saying there are visible
>>>> differences, with cables going all the way up to $800.
>>>>
>>>> I did some research. The fact is that HDMI cable is pure digital
>>>> and
>>>> is not subject to the things that cause signal loss (except in very
>>>> long lengths, or interference. A $16 HDMI v1.3 cable from a
>>>> computer
>>>> shop would do the job. If the specifications for HDMI v1 cable
>>>> makes
>>>> it good enough for Blu-Ray with 8-channel sound, it will do for DVD
>>>> as
>>>> well, hey?
>>>>
>>>Expensive cables were always dubious even in the analogue world
>>>especially
>>>when talking of distances of around a metre. This became really
>>>dubious once
>>>digital arrived.
>>>The optical cable on my first DVD (because of the horrendous cost at
>>>that
>>>time) was a plastic fibre from one of those optic fibre lamps pushed
>>>thru a
>>>hole in the blanking plugs.
>>>It was actually better that the "proper" ones which were heavy due to
>>>more
>>>substantial cladding and tended to pull out easier.

>>
>> And don't forget the other scam. The $500 power cord that HiFi
>> enthusiast swear are better that the one that came with the amp..

>
> Yes, but there the educated ****-wits with big ego's and even bigger
> wallets, Just read some of the crap on Audio forums for proof of
> that.
> So Jo, know every ****-in thing, wanders down the shops and pays
> outrageous prices for his leads, interconnects, powercords. He's
> hardly likely to tell everyone there is no difference. His ego won't
> let him.
> So he relates the Bullshit on the packet, then to keep up with Jo,
> everyone else buy's the same rubbish, and to remain in the circle of
> believers, they also perpetuate the lie.
> Then some unknowing person comes along, and attempts to tell the
> truth, about the high priced wet string, the "all knowing" are raving
> about. But to keep the myth alive, The new guy gets branded a
> trouble maker and banned.
> And the ****-wits continue on there merry way.




Sounds very much like the current global warming scam in the face a
cooling world!!!




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Bonzo


". researchers at the Max Planck Institute for Solar Research in Germany
report the sun has been burning more brightly over the last 60 years,
accounting for the 1 degree Celsius increase in Earth's temperature over
the last 100 years."
http://ibdeditorial.com/IBDArticles....87279412587175





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Old 6th September 2008, 03:21 PM   #38 (permalink)
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"zog" <zog@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:48c0f7eb$0$28214$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.a u...
> Snapper wrote:
>> GDS wrote...
>>
>>> Although there's always going to be someone try to justify getting
>>> ripped off by a salesman saying "well I can see the difference", the
>>> simple fact is so long as the HDMI cable meets the minimum
>>> specifications there will be zero observable difference on the
>>> screen and through the audio device.

>>
>> As I get older, crankier (if I said "cranky" those that know me would
>> howl me
>> down) and more cynical, I am increasingly convinced that employers
>> hire people
>> as sales people not because of their product knowledge but because
>> they can sell
>> freezers to Eskimos (fridges they do need).
>>
>> Whether this is about the fellow in Harvey Norman trying to tell you
>> that
>> Monster cable products are worth the $100 v a $15 cable from DSE, or
>> some guy in
>> Bunnings trying to tell you that Hardiplank products are the same as
>> timber
>> weatherboards, or the kid in Jaycar the other day trying to tell me
>> that
>> component video was the same as RGB when I was in there looking for
>> an RGB/SCART
>> to component converter, they all have demonstrated a decided lack of
>> product
>> knowledge.
>>

>
> yep, you could probably trace that back to companies like maccas who
> only employ untrained kids who once past a certain age are booted out
> because their wage group would cut into the almighty profit dollar and
> shareholders dividends.
>
> and thanks to companies abandoning Australia for cheap (read slave
> labour) overseas countries we are losing the skills that keeps us self
> sustainable.
>
> where **** did we go wrong?
>


We listened to leftie, agenda-driven, socialist scum!!!

That's also why we're currently being hoodwinked by the global warming
scam in the face of global cooling.



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"It's very appropriate that it [An Inconvenient Truth] got an Oscar from
the land of make-believe." Dr. Timothy Ball, Chairman of the Natural
Resources Stewardship Project (NRSP.com), Former Professor Of
Climatology, University of Winnipeg


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Old 6th September 2008, 03:21 PM   #39 (permalink)
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"Andy Wolfe" <agwolfe@pospam.optusnet.com.au> wrote in message
news:48c119bb$0$28217$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.a u...
> zog wrote:
>
>> where **** did we go wrong?

>
> pure, unmitigated greed, and the worship of it.
>


No, whacko, leftie, socialist agenda !!


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Warmest Regards

Bonzo

"Every year they recalibrate their computer model and put in the
observed temperature. So, as they go along, the curve that trails behind
is perfect. It's like predicting the morning's weather at six-o'clock in
the evening.." Dr. Don J. Easterbrook, Professor Emeritus Geology,
Western Washington University

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Old 6th September 2008, 04:25 PM   #40 (permalink)
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zobno wrote:

> Sounds very much like the current global warming scam in the face a
> cooling world!!!


shit ! where do you live ? its 10 degrees hotter in melbourne c/w 20 yrs
ago !!!! perhaps you have been duped by the hot1998 naysayers !!

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