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Old 23rd October 2008, 02:04 PM   #11 (permalink)
Claude
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Re: Windows 7 will be called . . .


"son of a bitch" <bitchin_2008@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:48ffc6b9$1@dnews.tpgi.com.au...
> Claude wrote:
>> "son of a bitch" <bitchin_2008@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>> news:48ff17b1$1@dnews.tpgi.com.au...
>>> I have yet to meet anyone who likes the GUI in Orfice 2007, It's
>>> good to see M$ listening to their users for once.
>>>

>>
>> I like it. Its not perfect but I prefer it to the traditional Office 2003
>> GUI. Obviously you have to suspend judgement until you've taken the time
>> to learn it. My major complaint is that the common editing tasks in the
>> Home ribbon aren't available without a click but I've mostly addressed
>> that by customising the Quick Access Toolbar to include most of them.

>
> It's just not easy to find anything, especially if you don't know what
> or where to look for something. All you have is a few pixels in the
> shape of something. You have to mouse over each pixel to discover what
> that picture actually does.
>
> About Intuitive.....Ask somebody new to 2007 and just ask them to
> just Print a Word Doc? or you can always use the Online Help but you
> would have to ask someone where the Online Help is.
>
> And some of the buttons on the GUI don't look like button being just
> a few pixels wide you can easily mistake them for dirt on the screen.
>
>
> Is this Crazy Technology or Technology gone Crazy?



Anything new is going to be difficult to begin with. The real question is
whether or not the first version of Office you ever tried was more intuitive
at the time than Office 2007 (after correcting for the fewer functions in
the older version). The test would be to find a sample of computer
neophytes (if any can still be found) and expose one half to Office 2007 and
the other half to Office 2003. I reckon Office 2007 would win. I think
most complaints about Office 2007 relate to the fact that it isn't the old
GUI, not whether its actually superior.





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Old 23rd October 2008, 03:56 PM   #12 (permalink)
son of a bitch
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Re: Windows 7 will be called . . .

Claude wrote:
> "son of a bitch" <bitchin_2008@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:48ffc6b9$1@dnews.tpgi.com.au...
>> Claude wrote:
>>> "son of a bitch" <bitchin_2008@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>>> news:48ff17b1$1@dnews.tpgi.com.au...
>>>> I have yet to meet anyone who likes the GUI in Orfice 2007, It's
>>>> good to see M$ listening to their users for once.
>>>>
>>> I like it. Its not perfect but I prefer it to the traditional Office 2003
>>> GUI. Obviously you have to suspend judgement until you've taken the time
>>> to learn it. My major complaint is that the common editing tasks in the
>>> Home ribbon aren't available without a click but I've mostly addressed
>>> that by customising the Quick Access Toolbar to include most of them.

>> It's just not easy to find anything, especially if you don't know what
>> or where to look for something. All you have is a few pixels in the
>> shape of something. You have to mouse over each pixel to discover what
>> that picture actually does.
>>
>> About Intuitive.....Ask somebody new to 2007 and just ask them to
>> just Print a Word Doc? or you can always use the Online Help but you
>> would have to ask someone where the Online Help is.
>>
>> And some of the buttons on the GUI don't look like button being just
>> a few pixels wide you can easily mistake them for dirt on the screen.
>>
>>
>> Is this Crazy Technology or Technology gone Crazy?

>
>
> Anything new is going to be difficult to begin with. The real question is
> whether or not the first version of Office you ever tried was more intuitive
> at the time than Office 2007 (after correcting for the fewer functions in
> the older version). The test would be to find a sample of computer
> neophytes (if any can still be found) and expose one half to Office 2007 and
> the other half to Office 2003. I reckon Office 2007 would win. I think
> most complaints about Office 2007 relate to the fact that it isn't the old
> GUI, not whether its actually superior.
>
>
>
>
>


I reckon, that what you reckon is wrong.
I have read a shit load forums on this very subject, and my own
experiences watching others. From those who have used M$ stuff for 10-15
years to those with only 1-2 years, the results are the same.
For every ~50 negative replies there is only 1 positive one.
All the gripes pretty much say the say thing.

But it does appeal to Newbies more than Old-Hacks, Okay it
only appeals to Newbies then.

The old versions, you could make Office do what you wanted it to do
and change the Toolbars to what you wanted to use most often.
The new version, you have to change your way of doing things to how
the programmers want you to work. You can't change the Toolbars at all.
If you have a Wide-Screen Notebook, you have lost 1/5 of the screen to
this stupid menu system. And that's all it is, a stupid menu system.

Now for productivity, who would be more productive a Old-Hack using
the Older version or a Newbie using Newer Version?. I'll bet my
left one on the Former.


Anyway, I've have enough fun using 2007 for a month and have decided
to piss it off and go back to the old version, so I can actually do
some work.





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Old 23rd October 2008, 05:54 PM   #13 (permalink)
Claude
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Re: Windows 7 will be called . . .


"son of a bitch" <bitchin_2008@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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>>

> I reckon, that what you reckon is wrong.
> I have read a shit load forums on this very subject, and my own
> experiences watching others. From those who have used M$ stuff for 10-15
> years to those with only 1-2 years, the results are the same.
> For every ~50 negative replies there is only 1 positive one.
> All the gripes pretty much say the say thing.
>
> But it does appeal to Newbies more than Old-Hacks, Okay it
> only appeals to Newbies then.
>
> The old versions, you could make Office do what you wanted it to do
> and change the Toolbars to what you wanted to use most often.
> The new version, you have to change your way of doing things to how
> the programmers want you to work. You can't change the Toolbars at all.
> If you have a Wide-Screen Notebook, you have lost 1/5 of the screen to
> this stupid menu system. And that's all it is, a stupid menu system.
>
> Now for productivity, who would be more productive a Old-Hack using
> the Older version or a Newbie using Newer Version?. I'll bet my
> left one on the Former.
>
>
> Anyway, I've have enough fun using 2007 for a month and have decided
> to piss it off and go back to the old version, so I can actually do
> some work.
>
>

Fair enought, each to his or own. Even if I didn't like the GUI there are
some aspects of Office 2007 I find invaluable - like finally being able to
make multiple selections in Word and the way a fill slows down automatically
in Excel when you get to the end of a long column.


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