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Old 25th July 2008, 07:35 PM   #1 (permalink)
Ron
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Who would be stupid enough to buy a hybrid POS?

Reviews:

Q. Has anyone had any problems with their Toyota Prius?

A. You might want to do a search for unexplained acceleration problems

A. the batteries lose efficacy fast enough that your "savings "on gas
will be off set by there replacement cost..that is if there were savings
...the cost of the car it's self off set any real savings there could be .
Toyota has the most recalls of any manufacturer..and they won't recall
the tundra right now even tho they know it has a potentially deadly habit
of accelerating when the driver wants to stop...avoid Toyota at all costs
....don't be a sucker for some "green advertising "

A. The only potential problem I see is an intake valve. There is a vent
in the rear seat that goes directly into the battery. If it gets clogged,
it'll basically destroy the car. We're not even letting fat people sit in
that spot, because it's easy to inadvertently cover. The manual
recommends against hauling aquariums or other large water objects.

A. Andrea of Plano TX (7/8/03):
My complaints are numerous (2001 Toyota Prius):
1. Front end alignment -- cause unknown. Several alignments, still
doesn't track well.
2. Gas gauge/tank problems -- went from 45.0mg to 29.5 mpg - took several
trips to get the problem "solved" -- not sure that it is totally solved.
Consumption screen is screwy and so is the gas gauge. Also told car loses
gas mileage as they get older -- car was only a year or so old and a
Prius doesn't use gas when stopped.
3. Rack and pinion steering -- several trips to service before they
agreed there's a problem and fixed it.
4. 3rd set of tires -- 18,000, 36,000 and about 45,000 miles
5. Accelerator assembly quit in rush hour traffic -- fixed, took two
trips. There's still a noticeable drop in power, almost daily.

Most problems "fixed" but I don't trust this car nor do I trust Toyota of
Richardson Tex to fix my car. The second trip for the accelerator I was
told there was nothing wrong with the car, but the "sticky" place
disappeared after second trip. They didn't want to admit they were wrong.


A. Karen of Fairhope AL (07/16/08)
The 07 Toyota Prius stated 60 MPH for in town, and from the first tank, I
have averaged only 45 MPH. Why was Toyota not being honest about the MPH?
Did the EPA really change the way it rates MPH?

A. W of Anaheim CA (07/16/08)
Re: 2005 Prius purchased 4/30/05 Noise after shut-down or when brake is
depressed to start __________________________________________ On 7/11/08
we took the car to the dealer to have this problem investigated because
the noise continued intermittently for several hours the previous night.
As we left for the dealer, the ABS warning lights came on, but, we
experienced no problem with the brakes on the three mile drive. We were
told that the cause was the ABS actuator and it would cost $2600 to
repair. We were only 2-1/2 months out of warranty with only 32,016 miles
on the odometer - not the 36,000 that would put us out of warranty if the
time hadn't run out. We were stunned to have such an expensive repair on
such a new car. We immediately contacted Toyota Motor Sales. On reviewing
the service record, we found that we had had the car serviced for a
different complaint (an unexplained beeping when the brakes were applied)
in May 2007. The identical part had been replaced under warranty. The new
part was warranted for 1 year. Again we were out of warranty by a couple
of months and after only 13,000 miles of driving. Toyota Motor Sales
negotiated with our dealer and decided that between them they would cover
the $2000 cost of the part and we should pay $600 labor (estimated at
5.5Hrs.) to replace it. Checking on line indicates several cases of
failure of this part. However, many people may be experiencing problems
without realizing it because of the strange and unpredictable symptoms.
Toyota has published Technical Service Bulletin (TSB) BR001-07 that
describes the problem and instructs the service departments not to do
anything unless the customers complain. In our experience this would put
many of the complaints out of warranty.
________________________________________ Tires ___________ We are also
very unhappy with the the tires and/or the suspension system. We have
experienced excessive tire wear and after 32,000 miles we need a new set.

A. Allen of Bessemer MI (07/02/08)
While accellerating into traffic on US-2 WB from Country Club Road in
Gogebic County, Michigan, the throttle on my new Prius (4,000 miles)
stuck wide open. I was able to maintain 55 mph by sporadic breaking and
finally managed to brake to a stop. While the engine was in the
accellerating mode, I was unable to shift to neutral, shut the engine
off, or otherwise stop the vehicle. After I was finally able to brake to
a stop (with both electric and gas engines still drawing full power), the
engine did shut down for a few seconds and I was able to hit the power
button and shut the engine off. I thought, at this time, that whatever
was wrong would have rectified itself, so I restarted the car with the
power button, while in park. The engine returned to it's normal idle
cylcle, but as soon as I put the shift lever into drive, the engine again
began racing and as I was now in heavy traffic in a 40 mph zone, I had to
maintain steady pressure on the brake pedal to keep the car within a safe
speed and lane usage. The engine (both gas and electric) now applied more
power as I was breaking and before I was able to pull off the street, the
brakes were smoking so badly my brother thought thew car was on fire.
Once into the parking lot of a local bank, and stopped, the engine again
paused briefly and I shut it down with the power button. While this
engine racing was taking place, I tried to shift to neutral, hit the park
switch, the power putton, stepped on and off the throttle pedal
repeatedly, and switched the cruise control button on and off several
times. The only succesfull remedy was to brake down through full applied
power to a stop, with smoking brakes and wait for a pause in engine rpm.
If I waited for more than a second or two, the high revs would resume and
run high for several more seconds. My Toyota dealer advised me that they
could find nothing wrong, test drove the car for 10 miles and had no
recurrence. They also suggested that my floor mat had become stuck on the
throttle pedal causing the incident. The service manager (Eric Bolen)
stated that Toyota maintained that this rampant throttle run was
IMPOSSIBLE I am a retired Michigan State Trooper especially trained in
accident investigation and reconstruction, a former Cummins Diesel
mecahnic and have installed several after market cruise controlls on at
least three different makes of vehicles, so I am very familiar with
mechanical and electronic systems. I am also quite experience in dealing
with emergency driving situations after spending 25 years on the road as
an enforcement officer. After being told about the floor mat excuse, and
knowing that I had tried to step on and release the accellerator pedal
over and over while the incident was happening, I did take the time to
place the floor mat both over and jam it under the pedal.......neither
tactics were able to jam the pedal's movement. In spite of Toyota's claim
that this condition is impossible, I have enough experience with vehicles
and emergency driving situations to know that this actually did happen,
was not a matter of a floor mat getting jammed either on or under the
accellerator pedal, and in fact was the result of some internal operating
system glitch. At this juncture, I have no complaint with our Toyota
dealer or their employees, and the vehicle seems to be functioning
normally now. I am concerned that Toyota has not addressed this as a
safety issue, however. Had this happened with my wife driving, I am sure
this would not have come to a safe conclusion. We are still driving this
vehicle but I have instructed her in how to handle a simililar condition
should it recure. Thank you for providing a forum for getting this
information out. If necessary I can provide vehicle VIN etc for more
thorough evaluation.

A. Anna of Keizer OR (06/24/08)
My Prius had the brakes go out (luckily for me it was under warranty and
I had a Toyota staff person advocate for my warranty so it was honored)
however, after reaching 100,000 miles, my display is now starting to show
the same signs as some of the other people are complaining about the
monitor turning off the radio, or a/c while I'm driving.

A. Geo of Huntsburg OH (06/15/08)
we bought a new 2002 toyota prius and with 20,000 miles on our original
set and 50000 on our 2nd set we now have to buy a 3rd set of tires
because the outer tread has worn down to the radial. these tires are
supposed to last 65000 miles and neither toyota nor bridgestone will do
anything about this potentially life threatening problem. We had the
tires rotated, balanced and aligned as needed. In my opinion, if you want
a eco freindly car buy a honda.

A. Michael of Willits CA (06/12/08)
The Traction Control system on my 2008 Toyota Prius is worthless. I have
a steep gravel driveway that is extremely hard to climb due to the
unnecessary engine cut outs, especially if there is any extra weight in
the rear of the car. The engines quit when the computer senses any type
of slippage; worse in the summer when gravel is dry. Also there are very
noticeable engine cut outs when just going over bumps on level pavement.
My previous Prius, a 2002, would slip a bit on the same driveway but I
had much more control over the car and the speed compared to the new
2008, very acceptable. Heavier tires with more rubber on the road made
little difference with the 2002; I expect the same when I get better
tires on the 2008. Had I known about the problem with this earlier, as I
have just found reported on the internet, I would not have purchased this
car.

A. I am SICK to my stomach. I have TRUSTED Toyota for YEARS to provide a
SAFE and RELIABLE vehicle. I traded in my 2007 Toyota Touring Avalon on
my 2008 Toyota Prius ... NEVER even giving ONE thought that I was buying
an UNSAFE and HAZARDOUS car. (Boy do I ever wish I still had the Avalon
....)

A. Ginny of Cascade ID (06/03/08)
My new 2007 Prius Toyota with 5000 miles on it quit running. Would not
start. Called dealer and had maintenance dept. walk me through a jump
start as with these cars you do it under the front hood not in the back
where the battery is. Car still would not start. They said have it towed
in. I did have it towed in the 85 miles to the dealer. After several mis
communication calls and two different reports on my car I found out they
will not fix under warranty. Say I jumped it wrong. They say I caused the
damage and that warranty is only for defective parts.

A. Ted of Eagle CO (05/26/08)
On August 10, 2008 my wife, Elizabeth James, experienced an unintended
acceleration of our Prius resulting in a totalled car and long term minor
injuries for her (chronic back pain, obstructed intestines).

A. Dean of New Rochelle NY (05/15/08)
The Toyota Prius nearly killed a mechanic and me today, literally. I had
the car stored for months in my flat level driveway for a relative who is
traveling abroad. Naturally, the battery went dead after not being driven
during this time. So, I had a mechanic come and he started the engine
today. While the Prius engine was running, both the mechanic and myself
were half in and half outside the car; the mechanic by the driver side
and me by the passenger side. The car suddenly lunged in reverse and the
driver side opened door of the Prius totally destroyed my car driver side
door parked along side it, and somehow the mechanic brought the car to a
stop. The mechanic claims the Prius was in neutral but the brake had been
applied when it suddenly, with no warning, accelerated in reverse. Im
thankful we escaped without injury but now I have a hefty expense to
replace my car door. Just imagine if someone had been behind the Prius
today, they likely would have died.

A. J. of Dublin, Ireland (05/15/08)
June 2004 Toyota Prius....28,800 miles. Computer Display unit on the
dash-board has gone faulty. Toyota say its not covered on the 8yr Hybrid
system warranty? They are looking for almost 3500 euro to replace
it.....after ONLY 28,000 miles!!! Have been offered a Reconditioned unit
for half the price? There must be a manufacturing problem with this
unit??

Air-conditioning unit not working and radio also faulty, plus no read-out
on display unit. A right pain to say the least!

A. Paget of Santa Monica CA (05/09/08)
I recently bought a Toyota Prius 2008. After one week I had a dead
battery. I have since learned that the car is started with a small 12v
battery and due to the size and number of items it runs on the car
(radio, CD, air conditioning fan, alarm, smart key entry etc) the battery
can go dead very quickly. if the car is not driven, the battery dies in 7
days. Even if you drive the car, it takes approx 10 hours of driving to
fully charge the 12v. I have never read this in any of the research I did
on this car.

A. Kevin of Rochester NY (05/09/08)
While test driving a Toyota Prius today the car accelerated on its own
even though my foot was off the gas and on the break. The sales women was
in the car with me and was as frightened. I drove the car about a half a
mile before I could find a driveway to pull off on. By then the car was
engulfed in smoke from the breaks over heating. I was finally able to
pull off the road and stopped the acceleration when I tapped the
accelerator. We drove the car back to the dealership to the service
department. Upon telling the service person our story he commented that
this happens all the time with this car and blamed the problem on the
accelerator being caught in the floor mat. I immediately walked ou to the
car opened the driver door, got on my hands and knees and examined the
floor mat and then pushed the accelerator down to the floor and
determined there was a inch distance between the mat and accelerator.
Toyota has a problem they need to solve!

A. William of New York NY (05/07/08)
I have a 2006 Prius fully loaded. I was checking the tire pressure one
day and had my hand in front of the tire. The engine kicked in, I guess
to charge the battery and the car jerked forward an inch or two. Good
thing I moved my hand quick enough. This is an accident waiting to
happen. So becareful if you have it on park and the engine is on. In
addition, when I'm waiting for someone in the streets and put it on park.
When the engine kicks in, the car jerks forward. And you know, in NYC
midtown area, there are alot of jay walkers. I hope they take this safety
concern into consideraton in future models.

A. Michael of Placerville CA (04/25/08)
Toyota Prius balked (shut Down) when entering highway from a incline and
we were not able to get out of the way of oncoming traffic. Repair costs
to prius almost $10,000. Cannot get up drive way when it rains, snow
makes the car start and stop often.

A. Kathy of Torrance CA (03/13/08)
I am the owner of 2006 Prius. On February 25, 2008 at 8am heading to
work, suddenly, the hazardous red light and the battery light went off on
my dashboard screen and realized that my car was loosing power on busy
110 Harbor freeway north bound. I panicked not knowing what happened. The
car became heavy and it started to slow down no matter how I pushed the
accelerator.

I could not control the speed anymore. All I could think was to pull my
car to the right shoulder and I barely made it to the nearest shoulder
which was very narrow. I feared of the speeding cars approaching from
behind thinking maybe one of the cars will eventually crash into me. I
called above dealer right away but I was told that they would not know
the problem until they see my car and suggested my car be towed. When my
car got to the dealer, Sean first told me that things like this is most
likely covered under warranty so he suggested leaving the car and rent a
car.

AND THERE ARE MANY MANY MORE!!
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Old 25th July 2008, 09:32 PM   #2 (permalink)
RogerM
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Re: Who would be stupid enough to buy a hybrid POS?


"Ron" <dodo@hotmail> wrote in message
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> Reviews:


Wow, I'm sure glad our Aussie Hybrids are better than the pieces of shit the
US get.

Roger

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Old 25th July 2008, 10:09 PM   #3 (permalink)
the_dawggie
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Re: Who would be stupid enough to buy a hybrid POS?

On Jul 25, 8:21*pm, "RogerM" <rog...@justrucks.com.au> wrote:
> "Ron" <dodo@hotmail> wrote in message
>
> news:Xns9AE6BA1F6DF5EGPS@64.209.0.91...
>
> > Reviews:

>
> Wow, I'm sure glad our Aussie Hybrids are better than the pieces of shit the
> US get.


I would not buy one. The only thing you have is braking taking back
energy
into a battery pack of many many cells. Failure point there is likely.

I had enough experience with batteries since I was a kid. Urrr umm,
nope. My truck would even run without a car battery - just need to
start
it. Alternator will then power luxo stuff like stereo, and 'lights.
Engine will
have no further interest in 'lectric as long as it still gets fuel.
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Old 25th July 2008, 10:09 PM   #4 (permalink)
Lu R
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Re: Who would be stupid enough to buy a hybrid POS?


"Ron" <dodo@hotmail> wrote in message
news:Xns9AE6BA1F6DF5EGPS@64.209.0.91...
> Reviews:
>
> Q. Has anyone had any problems with their Toyota Prius?
>
> A. You might want to do a search for unexplained acceleration problems
>
> A. the batteries lose efficacy fast enough that your "savings "on gas
> will be off set by there replacement cost..that is if there were savings
> ..the cost of the car it's self off set any real savings there could be .
> Toyota has the most recalls of any manufacturer..and they won't recall
> the tundra right now even tho they know it has a potentially deadly habit
> of accelerating when the driver wants to stop...avoid Toyota at all costs
> ...don't be a sucker for some "green advertising "
>
> A. The only potential problem I see is an intake valve. There is a vent
> in the rear seat that goes directly into the battery. If it gets clogged,
> it'll basically destroy the car. We're not even letting fat people sit in
> that spot, because it's easy to inadvertently cover. The manual
> recommends against hauling aquariums or other large water objects.
>
> A. Andrea of Plano TX (7/8/03):
> My complaints are numerous (2001 Toyota Prius):
> 1. Front end alignment -- cause unknown. Several alignments, still
> doesn't track well.
> 2. Gas gauge/tank problems -- went from 45.0mg to 29.5 mpg - took several
> trips to get the problem "solved" -- not sure that it is totally solved.
> Consumption screen is screwy and so is the gas gauge. Also told car loses
> gas mileage as they get older -- car was only a year or so old and a
> Prius doesn't use gas when stopped.
> 3. Rack and pinion steering -- several trips to service before they
> agreed there's a problem and fixed it.
> 4. 3rd set of tires -- 18,000, 36,000 and about 45,000 miles
> 5. Accelerator assembly quit in rush hour traffic -- fixed, took two
> trips. There's still a noticeable drop in power, almost daily.
>
> Most problems "fixed" but I don't trust this car nor do I trust Toyota of
> Richardson Tex to fix my car. The second trip for the accelerator I was
> told there was nothing wrong with the car, but the "sticky" place
> disappeared after second trip. They didn't want to admit they were wrong.
>
>
> A. Karen of Fairhope AL (07/16/08)
> The 07 Toyota Prius stated 60 MPH for in town, and from the first tank, I
> have averaged only 45 MPH. Why was Toyota not being honest about the MPH?
> Did the EPA really change the way it rates MPH?
>
> A. W of Anaheim CA (07/16/08)
> Re: 2005 Prius purchased 4/30/05 Noise after shut-down or when brake is
> depressed to start __________________________________________ On 7/11/08
> we took the car to the dealer to have this problem investigated because
> the noise continued intermittently for several hours the previous night.
> As we left for the dealer, the ABS warning lights came on, but, we
> experienced no problem with the brakes on the three mile drive. We were
> told that the cause was the ABS actuator and it would cost $2600 to
> repair. We were only 2-1/2 months out of warranty with only 32,016 miles
> on the odometer - not the 36,000 that would put us out of warranty if the
> time hadn't run out. We were stunned to have such an expensive repair on
> such a new car. We immediately contacted Toyota Motor Sales. On reviewing
> the service record, we found that we had had the car serviced for a
> different complaint (an unexplained beeping when the brakes were applied)
> in May 2007. The identical part had been replaced under warranty. The new
> part was warranted for 1 year. Again we were out of warranty by a couple
> of months and after only 13,000 miles of driving. Toyota Motor Sales
> negotiated with our dealer and decided that between them they would cover
> the $2000 cost of the part and we should pay $600 labor (estimated at
> 5.5Hrs.) to replace it. Checking on line indicates several cases of
> failure of this part. However, many people may be experiencing problems
> without realizing it because of the strange and unpredictable symptoms.
> Toyota has published Technical Service Bulletin (TSB) BR001-07 that
> describes the problem and instructs the service departments not to do
> anything unless the customers complain. In our experience this would put
> many of the complaints out of warranty.
> ________________________________________ Tires ___________ We are also
> very unhappy with the the tires and/or the suspension system. We have
> experienced excessive tire wear and after 32,000 miles we need a new set.
>
> A. Allen of Bessemer MI (07/02/08)
> While accellerating into traffic on US-2 WB from Country Club Road in
> Gogebic County, Michigan, the throttle on my new Prius (4,000 miles)
> stuck wide open. I was able to maintain 55 mph by sporadic breaking and
> finally managed to brake to a stop. While the engine was in the
> accellerating mode, I was unable to shift to neutral, shut the engine
> off, or otherwise stop the vehicle. After I was finally able to brake to
> a stop (with both electric and gas engines still drawing full power), the
> engine did shut down for a few seconds and I was able to hit the power
> button and shut the engine off. I thought, at this time, that whatever
> was wrong would have rectified itself, so I restarted the car with the
> power button, while in park. The engine returned to it's normal idle
> cylcle, but as soon as I put the shift lever into drive, the engine again
> began racing and as I was now in heavy traffic in a 40 mph zone, I had to
> maintain steady pressure on the brake pedal to keep the car within a safe
> speed and lane usage. The engine (both gas and electric) now applied more
> power as I was breaking and before I was able to pull off the street, the
> brakes were smoking so badly my brother thought thew car was on fire.
> Once into the parking lot of a local bank, and stopped, the engine again
> paused briefly and I shut it down with the power button. While this
> engine racing was taking place, I tried to shift to neutral, hit the park
> switch, the power putton, stepped on and off the throttle pedal
> repeatedly, and switched the cruise control button on and off several
> times. The only succesfull remedy was to brake down through full applied
> power to a stop, with smoking brakes and wait for a pause in engine rpm.
> If I waited for more than a second or two, the high revs would resume and
> run high for several more seconds. My Toyota dealer advised me that they
> could find nothing wrong, test drove the car for 10 miles and had no
> recurrence. They also suggested that my floor mat had become stuck on the
> throttle pedal causing the incident. The service manager (Eric Bolen)
> stated that Toyota maintained that this rampant throttle run was
> IMPOSSIBLE I am a retired Michigan State Trooper especially trained in
> accident investigation and reconstruction, a former Cummins Diesel
> mecahnic and have installed several after market cruise controlls on at
> least three different makes of vehicles, so I am very familiar with
> mechanical and electronic systems. I am also quite experience in dealing
> with emergency driving situations after spending 25 years on the road as
> an enforcement officer. After being told about the floor mat excuse, and
> knowing that I had tried to step on and release the accellerator pedal
> over and over while the incident was happening, I did take the time to
> place the floor mat both over and jam it under the pedal.......neither
> tactics were able to jam the pedal's movement. In spite of Toyota's claim
> that this condition is impossible, I have enough experience with vehicles
> and emergency driving situations to know that this actually did happen,
> was not a matter of a floor mat getting jammed either on or under the
> accellerator pedal, and in fact was the result of some internal operating
> system glitch. At this juncture, I have no complaint with our Toyota
> dealer or their employees, and the vehicle seems to be functioning
> normally now. I am concerned that Toyota has not addressed this as a
> safety issue, however. Had this happened with my wife driving, I am sure
> this would not have come to a safe conclusion. We are still driving this
> vehicle but I have instructed her in how to handle a simililar condition
> should it recure. Thank you for providing a forum for getting this
> information out. If necessary I can provide vehicle VIN etc for more
> thorough evaluation.
>
> A. Anna of Keizer OR (06/24/08)
> My Prius had the brakes go out (luckily for me it was under warranty and
> I had a Toyota staff person advocate for my warranty so it was honored)
> however, after reaching 100,000 miles, my display is now starting to show
> the same signs as some of the other people are complaining about the
> monitor turning off the radio, or a/c while I'm driving.
>
> A. Geo of Huntsburg OH (06/15/08)
> we bought a new 2002 toyota prius and with 20,000 miles on our original
> set and 50000 on our 2nd set we now have to buy a 3rd set of tires
> because the outer tread has worn down to the radial. these tires are
> supposed to last 65000 miles and neither toyota nor bridgestone will do
> anything about this potentially life threatening problem. We had the
> tires rotated, balanced and aligned as needed. In my opinion, if you want
> a eco freindly car buy a honda.
>
> A. Michael of Willits CA (06/12/08)
> The Traction Control system on my 2008 Toyota Prius is worthless. I have
> a steep gravel driveway that is extremely hard to climb due to the
> unnecessary engine cut outs, especially if there is any extra weight in
> the rear of the car. The engines quit when the computer senses any type
> of slippage; worse in the summer when gravel is dry. Also there are very
> noticeable engine cut outs when just going over bumps on level pavement.
> My previous Prius, a 2002, would slip a bit on the same driveway but I
> had much more control over the car and the speed compared to the new
> 2008, very acceptable. Heavier tires with more rubber on the road made
> little difference with the 2002; I expect the same when I get better
> tires on the 2008. Had I known about the problem with this earlier, as I
> have just found reported on the internet, I would not have purchased this
> car.
>
> A. I am SICK to my stomach. I have TRUSTED Toyota for YEARS to provide a
> SAFE and RELIABLE vehicle. I traded in my 2007 Toyota Touring Avalon on
> my 2008 Toyota Prius ... NEVER even giving ONE thought that I was buying
> an UNSAFE and HAZARDOUS car. (Boy do I ever wish I still had the Avalon
> ...)
>
> A. Ginny of Cascade ID (06/03/08)
> My new 2007 Prius Toyota with 5000 miles on it quit running. Would not
> start. Called dealer and had maintenance dept. walk me through a jump
> start as with these cars you do it under the front hood not in the back
> where the battery is. Car still would not start. They said have it towed
> in. I did have it towed in the 85 miles to the dealer. After several mis
> communication calls and two different reports on my car I found out they
> will not fix under warranty. Say I jumped it wrong. They say I caused the
> damage and that warranty is only for defective parts.
>
> A. Ted of Eagle CO (05/26/08)
> On August 10, 2008 my wife, Elizabeth James, experienced an unintended
> acceleration of our Prius resulting in a totalled car and long term minor
> injuries for her (chronic back pain, obstructed intestines).
>
> A. Dean of New Rochelle NY (05/15/08)
> The Toyota Prius nearly killed a mechanic and me today, literally. I had
> the car stored for months in my flat level driveway for a relative who is
> traveling abroad. Naturally, the battery went dead after not being driven
> during this time. So, I had a mechanic come and he started the engine
> today. While the Prius engine was running, both the mechanic and myself
> were half in and half outside the car; the mechanic by the driver side
> and me by the passenger side. The car suddenly lunged in reverse and the
> driver side opened door of the Prius totally destroyed my car driver side
> door parked along side it, and somehow the mechanic brought the car to a
> stop. The mechanic claims the Prius was in neutral but the brake had been
> applied when it suddenly, with no warning, accelerated in reverse. Im
> thankful we escaped without injury but now I have a hefty expense to
> replace my car door. Just imagine if someone had been behind the Prius
> today, they likely would have died.
>
> A. J. of Dublin, Ireland (05/15/08)
> June 2004 Toyota Prius....28,800 miles. Computer Display unit on the
> dash-board has gone faulty. Toyota say its not covered on the 8yr Hybrid
> system warranty? They are looking for almost 3500 euro to replace
> it.....after ONLY 28,000 miles!!! Have been offered a Reconditioned unit
> for half the price? There must be a manufacturing problem with this
> unit??
>
> Air-conditioning unit not working and radio also faulty, plus no read-out
> on display unit. A right pain to say the least!
>
> A. Paget of Santa Monica CA (05/09/08)
> I recently bought a Toyota Prius 2008. After one week I had a dead
> battery. I have since learned that the car is started with a small 12v
> battery and due to the size and number of items it runs on the car
> (radio, CD, air conditioning fan, alarm, smart key entry etc) the battery
> can go dead very quickly. if the car is not driven, the battery dies in 7
> days. Even if you drive the car, it takes approx 10 hours of driving to
> fully charge the 12v. I have never read this in any of the research I did
> on this car.
>
> A. Kevin of Rochester NY (05/09/08)
> While test driving a Toyota Prius today the car accelerated on its own
> even though my foot was off the gas and on the break. The sales women was
> in the car with me and was as frightened. I drove the car about a half a
> mile before I could find a driveway to pull off on. By then the car was
> engulfed in smoke from the breaks over heating. I was finally able to
> pull off the road and stopped the acceleration when I tapped the
> accelerator. We drove the car back to the dealership to the service
> department. Upon telling the service person our story he commented that
> this happens all the time with this car and blamed the problem on the
> accelerator being caught in the floor mat. I immediately walked ou to the
> car opened the driver door, got on my hands and knees and examined the
> floor mat and then pushed the accelerator down to the floor and
> determined there was a inch distance between the mat and accelerator.
> Toyota has a problem they need to solve!
>
> A. William of New York NY (05/07/08)
> I have a 2006 Prius fully loaded. I was checking the tire pressure one
> day and had my hand in front of the tire. The engine kicked in, I guess
> to charge the battery and the car jerked forward an inch or two. Good
> thing I moved my hand quick enough. This is an accident waiting to
> happen. So becareful if you have it on park and the engine is on. In
> addition, when I'm waiting for someone in the streets and put it on park.
> When the engine kicks in, the car jerks forward. And you know, in NYC
> midtown area, there are alot of jay walkers. I hope they take this safety
> concern into consideraton in future models.
>
> A. Michael of Placerville CA (04/25/08)
> Toyota Prius balked (shut Down) when entering highway from a incline and
> we were not able to get out of the way of oncoming traffic. Repair costs
> to prius almost $10,000. Cannot get up drive way when it rains, snow
> makes the car start and stop often.
>
> A. Kathy of Torrance CA (03/13/08)
> I am the owner of 2006 Prius. On February 25, 2008 at 8am heading to
> work, suddenly, the hazardous red light and the battery light went off on
> my dashboard screen and realized that my car was loosing power on busy
> 110 Harbor freeway north bound. I panicked not knowing what happened. The
> car became heavy and it started to slow down no matter how I pushed the
> accelerator.
>
> I could not control the speed anymore. All I could think was to pull my
> car to the right shoulder and I barely made it to the nearest shoulder
> which was very narrow. I feared of the speeding cars approaching from
> behind thinking maybe one of the cars will eventually crash into me. I
> called above dealer right away but I was told that they would not know
> the problem until they see my car and suggested my car be towed. When my
> car got to the dealer, Sean first told me that things like this is most
> likely covered under warranty so he suggested leaving the car and rent a
> car.
>
> AND THERE ARE MANY MANY MORE!!


Oh GOD NO!!! 1 million Priuses sold worldwide and about 10 incidents here.
SO ****ING WHAT YOU TWAT?? How about you now demonstrate every FALCADORE
incident that's ever occurred? FIRES, AUTO TRANSMISSION FAILURES, CYLINDER
HEAD LEAKS, BRAKE FAILURES, EXHAUST LEAKS...**** me dead..you are truly a
stupid desperate ****wit trolling the net to put down the Prius ..well ****
you tool..you've shown your true noballs colours now wonny...I await the
Falcadore report..BWAHHAHARRR!!!


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Old 26th July 2008, 12:43 AM   #5 (permalink)
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On 25 Jul 2008 08:17:49 GMT, Ron blathered on in:aus.cars
> A. J. of Dublin, Ireland (05/15/08)
> June 2004 Toyota Prius....28,800 miles. Computer Display unit on the
> dash-board has gone faulty. Toyota say its not covered on the 8yr Hybrid
> system warranty? They are looking for almost 3500 euro to replace
> it.....after ONLY 28,000 miles!!! Have been offered a Reconditioned unit
> for half the price? There must be a manufacturing problem with this
> unit??


My favourite!

The old Toyota parts price gouge trick.


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On Fri, 25 Jul 2008 20:21:49 +1000, RogerM blathered on in:aus.cars
> "Ron" <dodo@hotmail> wrote in message
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>> Reviews:

>
> Wow, I'm sure glad our Aussie Hybrids are better than the pieces of shit the
> US get.
>
> Roger


Err, apparently they build them there...

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On Fri, 25 Jul 2008 20:52:10 +1000, Lu R blathered on in:aus.cars
> AND THERE ARE MANY MANY MORE!!
>
> Oh GOD NO!!! 1 million Priuses sold worldwide and about 10 incidents here.
> SO ****ING WHAT YOU TWAT?? How about you now demonstrate every FALCADORE
> incident that's ever occurred? FIRES, AUTO TRANSMISSION FAILURES, CYLINDER
> HEAD LEAKS, BRAKE FAILURES, EXHAUST LEAKS...**** me dead..you are truly a
> stupid desperate ****wit trolling the net to put down the Prius ..well ****
> you tool..you've shown your true noballs colours now wonny...I await the
> Falcadore report..BWAHHAHARRR!!!


Don't take it so hard, lad.


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"RogerM" <rogerm@justrucks.com.au> wrote in
news099a4e2$0$20326$c3e8da3@news.astraweb.com:

>
> "Ron" <dodo@hotmail> wrote in message
> news:Xns9AE6BA1F6DF5EGPS@64.209.0.91...
>> Reviews:

>
> Wow, I'm sure glad our Aussie Hybrids are better than the pieces of
> shit the US get.
>
> Roger
>


Australia is probably just as bad.
You just don't hear about it!
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"Lu R" <whome@hotmail.com> wrote in
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>


>> AND THERE ARE MANY MANY MORE!!

>
> Oh GOD NO!!! 1 million Priuses sold worldwide and about 10 incidents
> here. SO ****ING WHAT YOU TWAT?? How about you now demonstrate every
> FALCADORE incident that's ever occurred? FIRES, AUTO TRANSMISSION
> FAILURES, CYLINDER HEAD LEAKS, BRAKE FAILURES, EXHAUST LEAKS...**** me
> dead..you are truly a stupid desperate ****wit trolling the net to put
> down the Prius ..well **** you tool..you've shown your true noballs
> colours now wonny...I await the Falcadore report..BWAHHAHARRR!!!
>
>
>


Listen shit for brains, you bought that ****ing LEMON, NOT ME!!

Those are just a TINY amount of complaints!
The horrid PIRARSE is a dangerous LEMON!!

With a bit of luck you will get killed in your pieces of shit and we will
all have peace!!

ROTFLMAO..... Only a real ****wit would buy a PIRARSE... LOL:-)

I'll bet you sencond heap of shit is a MAGNA!!! Looser...
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Toby <me@privacy.net> wrote in
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> On Fri, 25 Jul 2008 20:52:10 +1000, Lu R blathered on in:aus.cars
>> AND THERE ARE MANY MANY MORE!!
>>
>> Oh GOD NO!!! 1 million Priuses sold worldwide and about 10 incidents
>> here. SO ****ING WHAT YOU TWAT?? How about you now demonstrate every
>> FALCADORE incident that's ever occurred? FIRES, AUTO TRANSMISSION
>> FAILURES, CYLINDER HEAD LEAKS, BRAKE FAILURES, EXHAUST LEAKS...****
>> me dead..you are truly a stupid desperate ****wit trolling the net to
>> put down the Prius ..well **** you tool..you've shown your true
>> noballs colours now wonny...I await the Falcadore
>> report..BWAHHAHARRR!!!

>
> Don't take it so hard, lad.
>
>
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