jackbadger56

On Aug 29, 1:55*pm, the_dawggie <the_dawg...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> On Aug 29, 1:35*pm, jackbadger56 <castl...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> > On Aug 29, 1:26*pm, "Atheist Chaplain" <abu...@cia.gov> wrote:
>
> > > "the_dawggie" <the_dawg...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>
> > >news:46919b90-a70e-4c37-b1b0-25bfbe93ec57@q26g2000prq.googlegroups.com....
> > > On Aug 29, 18 pm, jackbadger56 <castl...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > > On Aug 29, 12:42 pm, gregori <gregori.3ev...@no-mx.phorums.com.au>
> > > > wrote:
>
> > > > > I was travelling along Gardeners Rd at Kingsford yesterday.
> > > > > Its 3 lanes wide and the police had 2 of the lanes blocked forcing
> > > > > everyone to pass them in a single lane.
> > > > > as I approached the unmarked cop car (dark tinted windows) in the
> > > > > centre lane
> > > > > mounted on a tripod beside the car was what looked similar to a small
> > > > > radar device. Cylindrical in shape and was pointed down wards at an
> > > > > angle towards
> > > > > the front engine compartment of each car that passed by.
>
> > > > > As we were only travelling at a few KMs/hr it was obviously not aspeed
> > > > > check.
> > > > > The driver in front of me was pulled over and there was probably 3 or 4
> > > > > other vehicles being booked at the time.
> > > > > Probably 5 cop cars and twice as many police.
>
> > > > > Any ideas what they were doing/checking?
> > > > > Thanks
> > > > > Greg
>
> > > > > --
> > > > > gregori
> > > > > ** Posted fromhttp://www.teranews.com**
>
> > > > Might have been this new-fangled plate-reader in action; booking
> > > > unregistered cars.
>
> > > RBT? could be unregoed vehicles. That's just down a road from
> > > me.
>
> > > I'm scared to drive anywere these days. Police can put
> > > on whatever show they like it seems, just because they
> > > can.
>
> > > ==============================================
>
> > > if your not breaking the law, why are you scared ??
>
> > Could be be scared of one or more of many things, such as........
> > # - they're going to rort him of his million$
> > # - the baton-waver might scratch the 'lux (it's no ordinary Hilux,
> > but a 'lux Deluxe!)
> > # - he may be asked to do a reverse park into the booking bay
> > # - a derogatory comment from the booking officer might just send him
> > over the edge
> > # - questions may be asked as to why he's driving in the
> > neeyoooooood!!!
>
> I can reverse it or drive forward without a scratch on either bars to
> within a cm. The only time I was not paying attention, knocked
> rubber strip from driver's door - there is a 1cm scratch. Reversing
> into a ****ed up design of a car park got a slight scratch again
> 1cm (again no dent and again no damage to galvaneealing). I'm
> doing OK for an almost 19 yo vehicle that looks new with 230,000
> km on it.
>
> A 5+ metre long vehicle you have to think about in parking
> garages.

Luv ya, Dawg! ;-p

Noddy

"Atheist Chaplain" <abused@cia.gov> wrote in message
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> if your not breaking the law, why are you scared ??
> Oh that's right, your car has illegal mods :-)

And defective brakes.

The sooner it's put off the road the better for everyone around him.

--
Regards,
Noddy.

veritas

Atheist Chaplain wrote:
>
> I'm scared to drive anywere these days. Police can put
> on whatever show they like it seems, just because they
> can.
>
> ==============================================
>
> if your not breaking the law, why are you scared ??
> Oh that's right, your car has illegal mods :-)


http://www.boingboing.net/2008/07/28...d-cop-agr.html

Did you catch this from someones recent post (can't recall who/where tho)?

Quite good, I thought.



>

Atheist Chaplain

"veritas" <veritas@coldmail.com> wrote in message
news:g9814k$452$1@aioe.org...
> Atheist Chaplain wrote:
>>
>> I'm scared to drive anywere these days. Police can put
>> on whatever show they like it seems, just because they
>> can.
>>
>> ==============================================
>>
>> if your not breaking the law, why are you scared ??
>> Oh that's right, your car has illegal mods :-)
>
>
> http://www.boingboing.net/2008/07/28...d-cop-agr.html
>
> Did you catch this from someones recent post (can't recall who/where tho)?
>
> Quite good, I thought.

I'll have a watch when I get home :-)
Thanks

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"Calling Atheism a religion is like calling bald a hair color."
Don Hirschberg

RainbowWarrior

"the_dawggie" <the_dawggie@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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On Aug 29, 1:26 pm, "Atheist Chaplain" <abu...@cia.gov> wrote:
> "the_dawggie" <the_dawg...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>
> news:46919b90-a70e-4c37-b1b0-25bfbe93ec57@q26g2000prq.googlegroups.com...
> On Aug 29, 18 pm, jackbadger56 <castl...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > On Aug 29, 12:42 pm, gregori <gregori.3ev...@no-mx.phorums.com.au>
> > wrote:
>
> > > I was travelling along Gardeners Rd at Kingsford yesterday.
> > > Its 3 lanes wide and the police had 2 of the lanes blocked forcing
> > > everyone to pass them in a single lane.
> > > as I approached the unmarked cop car (dark tinted windows) in the
> > > centre lane
> > > mounted on a tripod beside the car was what looked similar to a small
> > > radar device. Cylindrical in shape and was pointed down wards at an
> > > angle towards
> > > the front engine compartment of each car that passed by.
>
> > > As we were only travelling at a few KMs/hr it was obviously not a
> > > speed
> > > check.
> > > The driver in front of me was pulled over and there was probably 3 or
> > > 4
> > > other vehicles being booked at the time.
> > > Probably 5 cop cars and twice as many police.
>
> > > Any ideas what they were doing/checking?
> > > Thanks
> > > Greg
>
> > > --
> > > gregori
> > > ** Posted fromhttp://www.teranews.com**
>
> > Might have been this new-fangled plate-reader in action; booking
> > unregistered cars.
>
> RBT? could be unregoed vehicles. That's just down a road from
> me.
>
> I'm scared to drive anywere these days. Police can put
> on whatever show they like it seems, just because they
> can.
>
> ==============================================
>
> if your not breaking the law, why are you scared ??
> Oh that's right, your car has illegal mods :-)

They are legal, however Athol is jumping up and down
wanting to issue a G092 on them to make them RTA
legal.

No, not so much that, however I don't like people
poking into my life. If I don't disturb/damage others
I don't expect them to interrupt my life. If I do damage
someone else or their property then I'll take responsibility
for it. That said, yes motor vehicles must have a current rego,
and drivers a current license.

And we all know that if you were on the recieving end of an incident caused
by the average 20yo clown with mods legal or not you could trust them to
take responsibility for yourr injuries and damgaes?

RainbowWarrior

"veritas" <veritas@coldmail.com> wrote in message
news:g9814k$452$1@aioe.org...
> Atheist Chaplain wrote:
>>
>> I'm scared to drive anywere these days. Police can put
>> on whatever show they like it seems, just because they
>> can.
>>
>> ==============================================
>>
>> if your not breaking the law, why are you scared ??
>> Oh that's right, your car has illegal mods :-)
>
> http://www.boingboing.net/2008/07/28...d-cop-agr.html
>
> Did you catch this from someones recent post (can't recall who/where tho)?
>
> Quite good, I thought.

Yep, better not to even ring them if you are being attacked or have your
house broken into or some idiot rams your car off the road and drives off,
incase you get locked up and charged........................

Athol

the_dawggie <the_dawggie@hotmail.com> wrote:
> On Aug 29, 1:26 pm, "Atheist Chaplain" <abu...@cia.gov> wrote:

>> if your not breaking the law, why are you scared ??
>> Oh that's right, your car has illegal mods :-)

> They are legal, however Athol is jumping up and down
> wanting to issue a G092 on them to make them RTA
> legal.

The vehicle is not legal. It is, by definition, defective due to the
absence of an engineering ccertificate. It's only that it has not
been inspected and issued with a defect notice.

Of course, if you move to QLD, you won't be able to establish rego up
there without it being certified. Most of the time, if it has already
been certified in NSW and it's shown on the rego papers, it'll be
accepted in QLD without requiring a blue QLD mod plate...

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Athol
<http://cust.idl.com.au/athol> Linux Registered User # 254000
I'm a Libran Engineer. I don't argue, I discuss.

Athol

jackbadger56 <castle56@gmail.com> wrote:
> gregori <gregori.3ev...@no-mx.phorums.com.au> wrote:

>> I was travelling along Gardeners Rd at Kingsford yesterday.
>> Its 3 lanes wide and the police had 2 of the lanes blocked forcing
>> everyone to pass them in a single lane.
>> as I approached the unmarked cop car (dark tinted windows) in the
>> centre lane
>> mounted on a tripod beside the car was what looked similar to a small
>> radar device. Cylindrical in shape and was pointed down wards at an
>> angle towards
>> the front engine compartment of each car that passed by.

>> As we were only travelling at a few KMs/hr it was obviously not a speed
>> check.
>> The driver in front of me was pulled over and there was probably 3 or 4
>> other vehicles being booked at the time.
>> Probably 5 cop cars and twice as many police.

>> Any ideas what they were doing/checking?

> Might have been this new-fangled plate-reader in action; booking
> unregistered cars.

The description fits perfectly.

The camera takes a photo of the front of the vehicle and, using software
similar to that used on the safe-t-(s)cam system, the system locates and
reads the number plate. It is then automatically looked up on the police
system and the RTA DRIVES registration system.

The camera only covers one lane of traffic at a time. It is not able to
do multiple lanes, so the funnelling makes sense for its operation even
if it doesn't make sense from a traffic flow POV.

The computer search will flag more than just unregistered and stolen
vehicles. It will also flag intelligence on likely occupants of the vehicle
in relation to all sorts of stuff including outstanding warrants, drug
posession, drug or alcohol use whilst driving (DUI), posess stolen goods,
etc..

When the computer tells the cops to stop a particular vehicle in the
traffic stream, it also tells them all of the details of why...

While I don't like the fact that they're using it in a way that ****s up
traffic flow, I do like the fact that the cops are using this targetted
approach rather than randomly picking on people for speeding.

--
Athol
<http://cust.idl.com.au/athol> Linux Registered User # 254000
I'm a Libran Engineer. I don't argue, I discuss.

Daryl Walford

Athol wrote:
> the_dawggie <the_dawggie@hotmail.com> wrote:
>> On Aug 29, 1:26 pm, "Atheist Chaplain" <abu...@cia.gov> wrote:
>
>>> if your not breaking the law, why are you scared ??
>>> Oh that's right, your car has illegal mods :-)
>
>> They are legal, however Athol is jumping up and down
>> wanting to issue a G092 on them to make them RTA
>> legal.
>
> The vehicle is not legal. It is, by definition, defective due to the
> absence of an engineering ccertificate. It's only that it has not
> been inspected and issued with a defect notice.

Since we are speaking about engineering certificates do we need one for
fitting a 4AGZE into a AE86?
The replacement engine is the same capacity as the original and bolts
straight in although the original engine had 58kw and the new one has 123kw.
It also has a T series rear axle with a TRD LSD and disc brakes.


Daryl

Athol

Daryl Walford <dwalford@internode.on.net> wrote:

> Since we are speaking about engineering certificates do we need one for
> fitting a 4AGZE into a AE86?
> The replacement engine is the same capacity as the original and bolts
> straight in although the original engine had 58kw and the new one has 123kw.

But it is also supercharged and may be designed to comply with a different
emissions rule (either Australian or overseas). Even bolting a turbo or
supercharger onto an original engine (eg a gutless Toyota 3L diesel engine
with a turbo that takes it from totally gutless to boringly slow :-) ) is
required to be certified. In all cases, unless the exhaust system is the
original system for the new engine, which is known to comply with the right
noise ADR for the year of the vehicle, it'll need a noise test.

With a known emission complying engine being dropped into a car, it still
has to be engineered but doesn't need emission testing (or smoke testing,
in the case of filthy pre-emission diesels).

> It also has a T series rear axle with a TRD LSD and disc brakes.

If they weren't an original option on that model in Australia, they need
to be certified.

That's the case for NSW at least. Your mileage may vary. :-)

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Athol
<http://cust.idl.com.au/athol> Linux Registered User # 254000
I'm a Libran Engineer. I don't argue, I discuss.