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Old 25th August 2008, 11:41 PM   #21 (permalink)
Toby Ponsenby
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Re: obd11 plug

On Mon, 25 Aug 2008 21:26:49 +1000, F Murtz wrote:

> Toby Ponsenby wrote:
>> On Mon, 25 Aug 2008 19:38:56 +1000, F Murtz wrote:
>>
>>> Baz wrote:
>>>> "F Murtz" <haggisz@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:48b149b3$1@dnews.tpgi.com.au...
>>>>> F Murtz wrote:
>>>>>> anyone know where to get obd11 plugs? or is it j1962plug?
>>>>> Oops forgot to mention in australia
>>>>>
>>>> Jaycar have them in their 2008 catalogue, page 195, cat No. PP-0720, price 1
>>>> off $19.95.
>>>>
>>>> Barry
>>>>
>>>>
>>> The wrong sort, went there today mine are round I think they are obd-0
>>> the rectangular ones are obd-1,obd-2 or obd-3 I think

>>
>> ALRIGHT - WHAT THE **** IS THE RECEPTACLE IN/ON? AND STOP PISSING ABOUT.
>> Sorry about the shouting, not - but a round OBD thing is most definitely
>> some sort of weirdo fitting, so stop with the trolling and get on with
>> telling us what you REALLY want.
>> Or **** off somewhere and bother someone else - such as to a Toyota
>> group where they know about circular DIAGNOSTIC plug-socket combinations
>> or somefin.
>>
>>
>>

> It is a toyota 1989 cressida It is the obd connector under the dash It
> has a round body I think it is called obd with a zero on the end it is
> different to all the modern ones Apparently they changed in 1992 to the
> ones that jaycar have. mine is earlier. I have been driving round all
> day asking all and sundry the problem seems to be that the car companies
> call it one thing but the electronic companies call it something else
> google only finds auto references and wont mention plug manufacturers
> that I can make sense of. I thought of asking aus. electronics but you
> get screamed at more there than here.If it was easy to investigate I
> would not be "pissing about"


I supplied information elsewhere in this thread - but I'll repeat it
here.
The Cressida you have has a Toyota Diagnostic outlet as opposed to the
US Market OBDII, as you've probably gathered.
IMO, you probably should get at a wiring diagram and change the thing
over to the now common OBDII as used universally. It's not as if you'll
be giving the thing to the dealer to play wth, and it's dubious whether
there's anyone there old enough to remember how the diagnosis system
works.
That's because OBDII is an actual standard, cooked up between the
Septics and the Euro types, which was (apparently) resisted by the Japs
until it became obvious that they'd have to comply. In fact, OBDII is
Compulsory in some countries.

But I'm at a loss to understand what you need it for. Really.
Are you pissing about trying to get raw data for some sort of display,
or sensor information re mixture settings?


The shorting of the pins procedure is all that's required to get a
reading of the fault codes if any, as Toyota designed the thing to
reveal fault codes 'in the field'
The diagnosis thing is only to save time for dealerships appropriately
equipped, and as it happens, they also get to gouge you for the use of
the trick system.
There's a more of less duplicate plug under the bonnet, where you can't
see the fault light display and it's used when you're setting stuff such
as timing, TPS etc, and that's the one most mechanics play with. Yes,
even Toyota dealership types.
The only thing Toyota really lets you play with is Base Idle, and that
only with some reluctance - and all else in the ECU program hangs off
that.
There are things with Apexi written on them that let you warp the
mixture and stuff, but they're really geared towards turbocars and are
usually used to bodgy the settings so you can play risky games and know
why you blew the bastard up.
And they're handy for suprise attacks on boy racers.

But as a forinstance, if you're having idle problems, then you need to
cure that by finding the vacuum leak (usual) else the partial or full
blockage of the passages associated with the ICU (also usual). But all
that's another story.
There are other problems 7M installations get, but these are the big
hitters and, along with the stupid dead-ended coolant pipe LHS rear of
the engine is usually the progenitor of the head-gasket problem they
have.
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Old 25th August 2008, 11:41 PM   #22 (permalink)
Toby Ponsenby
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Re: obd11 plug

On Mon, 25 Aug 2008 21:41:39 +1000, F Murtz wrote:

> Toby Ponsenby wrote:
>> On Mon, 25 Aug 2008 19:25:49 +1000, F Murtz wrote:
>>
>>> Clocky wrote:
>>>> "F Murtz" <haggisz@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:48b14db0$1@dnews.tpgi.com.au...
>>>>> Toby Ponsenby wrote:
>>>>>> On Sun, 24 Aug 2008 21:491 +1000, F Murtz wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Toby Ponsenby wrote:
>>>>>>>> On Sun, 24 Aug 2008 21:44:55 +1000, F Murtz wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> F Murtz wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> anyone know where to get obd11 plugs? or is it j1962plug?
>>>>>>>>> Oops forgot to mention in australia
>>>>>>>> ahhhh - so you want to pay triple the price:-)
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> There's a couple of places - where are ya in .aus
>>>>>>> sydney nsw
>>>>>> www.wescomponents.com/
>>>>>>
>>>>>> They're in Sydney:-)
>>>>>> And likely to be able to source what you need.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>> thanks
>>>> These people list them too,
>>>> http://www.electusdistribution.com.a...2&SUBCATID=278
>>>>
>>>> I bought a few from an individual a year or two ago for cheap. I'll see if I
>>>> can find his details.
>>>>
>>>> I think I have some spares left, how many were you after?
>>>>
>>>>
>>> Today I discovered that there are different sockets, the most common
>>> being almost rectangular [jaycar has them] but mine is round.
>>> The car is 1989 cressida

>>
>> As I said in no uncertain terms elsewhere before you fessed up about
>> your car - you're looking at a diagnostic plug - right?
>> If so, it's NOT OBD, but a Toyota specific thing.
>> From my readings on the matter - I have a Cressida, the .au market
>> didn't get an OBD plug in the model year you have.
>> How about telling us WTF you're trying to do with this machine?
>>

> I have the service manual .The car is fuel injected. The manual has a
> picture of the obd socket. It is round and under the steering wheel
> Ps I just want to connect a dpdt centre off switch to the plug to save
> sticking bridges in the socket but it appears that it is all too much
> trouble.


Never a truer word was spoken:-)
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