Noddy

"Daryl Walford" <dwalford@internode.on.net> wrote in message
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> Agreed and even the replicas look the goods.
> Bugger of a thing to get into, the only way to get in is to stand on the
> seat, the bloke who let me sit in his GT40 said its the only way.

Yeah, they look to be a right bugger, and I'd be well and truly ****ed.
Still, if I owned one I'd just pull up a stool next to it in the garage,
drop my tweeds and exercise my right to enjoy myself

--
Regards,
Noddy.

Toby Ponsenby

On Mon, 25 Aug 2008 19:259 +1000, Noddy wrote:

> "Daryl Walford" <dwalford@internode.on.net> wrote in message
> news0c25e64$0$20317$c3e8da3@news.astraweb.com...
>
>> Agreed and even the replicas look the goods.
>> Bugger of a thing to get into, the only way to get in is to stand on the
>> seat, the bloke who let me sit in his GT40 said its the only way.
>
> Yeah, they look to be a right bugger, and I'd be well and truly ****ed.
> Still, if I owned one I'd just pull up a stool next to it in the garage,
> drop my tweeds and exercise my right to enjoy myself

That's a privilege, not a right.
--
Toby

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D Walford

Kwyjibo wrote:
> "Daryl Walford" <dwalford@internode.on.net> wrote in message
> news0c260f6$0$15869$c3e8da3@news.astraweb.com...
>> The E type is another of my favorites in the looks dept.
>
> Bleh. The windscreen was far too upright for a car with any sporting
> ambitions. The Datsun 240Z had the windscreen on a much better angle for a
> similar styled car, and was a much better looking car overall.
> It also shit on the jag in terms of reliability too.
>
I disagree about the looks and too bad the 240Z were as slow as a wet
weekend:-)


Daryl

D Walford

Ron wrote:
> Pit <spamlister@gmail.com> wrote in news:8f923efc-b817-4e65-bca6-
> 8cb8dac8a63e@25g2000prz.googlegroups.com:
>
>> My vote is still the pagoda roof SL Benzes 250. 280 then even
>> the S class sl and slcs have retained a "style "
>>
>> That is still neat
>>
>>
>> After that the old style Monaros have aged well .
>>
>>
>> In Current models the new Pugs look great
>>
>
> Series two XJ6 Jaguar
>
> 70-80's Corvette Stingray
>
> XK120 Jaguar

Agree the Jags look nice but IMO the 70-80's Corvettes look horrible.
My Yank mate owned a 57 Vette but hates the appearance of 70's models
although he raves about the performance of a 70's something 454 powered
Vette that one of his friends owned.


Daryl

Pit

On Aug 25, 9:24*am, s...@hotmail.com wrote:
> On Aug 25, 10:25 am, John_H <john4...@inbox.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> > s...@hotmail.com wrote:
> > >On Aug 24, 8:49 pm, John_H <john4...@inbox.com> wrote:
> > >> Pit wrote:
>
> > >> >My vote *is still the pagoda roof SL *Benzes * 250. 280 * then even
> > >> >the S class *sl and slcs *have retained a *"style "
>
> > >> Presumably you've never driven one (the pagoda roof)?
>
> > >> Grossly underpowered, even by the standards of their era. *And those
> > >> gear ratios... borrowed straight from a 1950's British truck (and
> > >> steered like one as well). *Four speed column shift to go with the
> > >> gear ratios IIRC.
>
> > >> It's many years ago, but I still count it (a 280) as by far the most
> > >> disappointing car I've ever driven (based on performance
> > >> expectations). *The ultimate polished turd!.
>
> > >Be fair, John, the OP was talking about styling, and the Pagoda Mercs
> > >are definitely pretty cars. *I've only driven one example, but it
> > >seemed to be a really nice cruiser. *I wouldn't want to chuck one down
> > >a twisty back road - but I don't think they were intended to be a
> > >sportscar as such. *Oh, the engine note was quite nice, too.
>
> > I've always been the roadster type myself and IIRC there were soft top
> > versions that looked much better than the coupe IMHO, even if they
> > didn't drive any better.
>
> Same car. The pagoda roof is a removable hard top. They look better
> without it, I agree.
>
> > If I had to drive it give me the same year
> > model TR6 anyday.
>
> Not if you've driven a Datsun 2000 Sports. :-)
>

Now there is a car I had forgotten about -------
looked lousy (IMO) But the things used to blow the doors off MGBs
MGA sprites and healy 100/4's
and those god awful spitfires.

And sounded beaut at full song
The TR 's I have always liked but never had one . Although Our Adj
used to let me punt his TR7 about
Funny Bloke (Ex Guards officer twee little cap and string backs
Peterson pipe et al .
And could not say his R's predated python but I reckon they must
have met him and modelled the skit on him no end .

Now punts 777 s about for Cathay .
And still an evil bastard with the skirts ----------- but now has
*THE* most immaculate Ferrari in HK .

Spoke with a real plum in the mouth acted a bit poofy but was
actually an evil bastard and would root a rolling dough nut.
Not the sort of chap that should be driving a TR7 I always thought .


> > *If I had to buy it, make it an E Type. *
>
> > As for style... Italians are the masters. *Pity about the substance.
> > ;-)
>
> > --
> > John H
>
> Nothing wrong with old Ferraris while they're running. :-)
>
> Cheers
> Steve

Pit

On Aug 25, 9:23*am, "Noddy" <m...@home.com> wrote:
> <s...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>
> news:a1200fd1-0763-42b9-8c2d-982fdd0b2fc3@a2g2000prm.googlegroups.com...
>
> > I have to say that for me, Ferrari 250 gtb swb or 250 California are
> > still the most beautiful cars ever.
>
> I actually have to agree here.
>
> They were *great* looking cars, and probably the best looking Ferrari's ever
> built. Too bad they had all the build quality of a home made kit car and the
> reliability of a 1970's Skoda.
>
> --
> Regards,
> Noddy.

Oh dear that *is* harsh . They really that bad eh ?

Pit

On Aug 25, 3:58*pm, Daryl Walford <dwalf...@internode.on.net> wrote:
> John_H wrote:
> > s...@hotmail.com wrote:
> >> On Aug 24, 8:49 pm, John_H <john4...@inbox.com> wrote:
> >>> Pit wrote:
>
> >>>> My vote *is still the pagoda roof SL *Benzes * 250. 280 * then even
> >>>> the S class *sl and slcs *have retained a *"style "
> >>> Presumably you've never driven one (the pagoda roof)?
>
> >>> Grossly underpowered, even by the standards of their era. *And those
> >>> gear ratios... borrowed straight from a 1950's British truck (and
> >>> steered like one as well). *Four speed column shift to go with the
> >>> gear ratios IIRC.
>
> >>> It's many years ago, but I still count it (a 280) as by far the most
> >>> disappointing car I've ever driven (based on performance
> >>> expectations). *The ultimate polished turd!.
> >> Be fair, John, the OP was talking about styling, and the Pagoda Mercs
> >> are definitely pretty cars. *I've only driven one example, but it
> >> seemed to be a really nice cruiser. *I wouldn't want to chuck one down
> >> a twisty back road - but I don't think they were intended to be a
> >> sportscar as such. *Oh, the engine note was quite nice, too.
>
> > I've always been the roadster type myself and IIRC there were soft top
> > versions that looked much better than the coupe IMHO, even if they
> > didn't drive any better. *If I had to drive it give me the same year
> > model TR6 anyday. *If I had to buy it, make it an E Type. *
>
> The E type is another of my favorites in the looks dept.
>
>
>
> > As for style... Italians are the masters. *Pity about the substance.
> > ;-)
>
> Maybe you are supposed to look at them and not drive them:-)
>
> Daryl

I used to Look at Alfas a lot (just so I could see how fast they
rusted )
Alfa GTV 1967 model great little thing to drive but Rust !! and
door handles always fell off for some reason ?

Swapped it +cash when we came back for a Ducati 900 super sport
which I kept for 20 years (until stolen)

Noddy

"Pit" <spamlister@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> Oh dear that *is* harsh . They really that bad eh ?

They're *appalling*, and probably the *worst* car in both respects you're
ever likely to find.

Why people pay the money for them they do is totally beyond me.

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Regards,
Noddy.

Atheist Chaplain

"D Walford" <dwalford@internode.on.net> wrote in message
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> Kwyjibo wrote:
>> "Daryl Walford" <dwalford@internode.on.net> wrote in message
>> news0c260f6$0$15869$c3e8da3@news.astraweb.com...
>>> The E type is another of my favorites in the looks dept.
>>
>> Bleh. The windscreen was far too upright for a car with any sporting
>> ambitions. The Datsun 240Z had the windscreen on a much better angle for
>> a similar styled car, and was a much better looking car overall.
>> It also shit on the jag in terms of reliability too.
>>
> I disagree about the looks and too bad the 240Z were as slow as a wet
> weekend:-)
>
>
> Daryl

That entirely depended on who tuned it. There was bloke here abouts that
used to have a different couple of 240's in his workshop every week because
apparently he was THE guy to go to if you wanted a 240Z that went like shit
off a shiny shovel :-)
A bloke who worked with my brother had one, it was set up as a club car,
complete with cage, tweaked suspension etc. It used to regularly leave SLR's
and Cobra's in its wake at club days.

--
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Don Hirschberg

John_H

Kwyjibo wrote:
>"Daryl Walford" <dwalford@internode.on.net> wrote in message
>news0c260f6$0$15869$c3e8da3@news.astraweb.com.. .
>>
>> The E type is another of my favorites in the looks dept.
>
>Bleh. The windscreen was far too upright for a car with any sporting
>ambitions. The Datsun 240Z had the windscreen on a much better angle for a
>similar styled car, and was a much better looking car overall.
>It also shit on the jag in terms of reliability too.

IIRC the windscreen was changed on the 4.2, possibly sometime after it
was introduced, to suit the American market. More upright angle and a
higher screen, so the driver could see overhead traffic lights.

My choice would've been the 3.8. Nothing wrong with their reliability
either (as cars of that era went).

--
John H