Atheist Chaplain

will this be just another "doomed to failure" technology
http://www.sciam.com/article.cfm?id=...r-on-the-cheap

"We [have] figured out a way just using a glass of water at room
temperature, under atmospheric pressure," Nocera says. "This thing [a thin
film of cobalt and phosphate on an electrode] just churns away making
[oxygen] from water."

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"Calling Atheism a religion is like calling bald a hair color."
Don Hirschberg

Daryl Walford

Atheist Chaplain wrote:
> will this be just another "doomed to failure" technology
> http://www.sciam.com/article.cfm?id=...r-on-the-cheap
>
> "We [have] figured out a way just using a glass of water at room
> temperature, under atmospheric pressure," Nocera says. "This thing [a thin
> film of cobalt and phosphate on an electrode] just churns away making
> [oxygen] from water."
>

Interesting science but IMO hydrogen is still a long way off being a
common fuel source for cars, in the meantime LPG is the obvious answer,
its cheap and clean and we have lots of it.


Daryl

Atheist Chaplain

"Daryl Walford" <dwalford@internode.on.net> wrote in message
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> Atheist Chaplain wrote:
>> will this be just another "doomed to failure" technology
>> http://www.sciam.com/article.cfm?id=...r-on-the-cheap
>>
>> "We [have] figured out a way just using a glass of water at room
>> temperature, under atmospheric pressure," Nocera says. "This thing [a
>> thin film of cobalt and phosphate on an electrode] just churns away
>> making [oxygen] from water."
>>
>
> Interesting science but IMO hydrogen is still a long way off being a
> common fuel source for cars, in the meantime LPG is the obvious answer,
> its cheap and clean and we have lots of it.
>
>
> Daryl

agreed, but its nice to see when a new breakthrough pops it's little head
up, the more little breakthroughs we get, the closer we are to one that will
make the whole world go "Well I'll be ****ed!!" :-)

--
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nofarkenway@gmail.com

On Aug 18, 3:32 pm, "Atheist Chaplain" <abu...@cia.gov> wrote:
> will this be just another "doomed to failure" technologyhttp://www.sciam.com/article.cfm?id=hydrogen-power-on-the-cheap
>
> "We [have] figured out a way just using a glass of water at room
> temperature, under atmospheric pressure," Nocera says. "This thing [a thin
> film of cobalt and phosphate on an electrode] just churns away making
> [oxygen] from water."
>
> --
> "Calling Atheism a religion is like calling bald a hair color."
> Don Hirschberg

Might be possible. Logically, the only way to split water molecules
using an electric current and doing it effieciently is with some sort
of catalyst. However, when I read this "... by simply adding the
metals cobalt and phosphate ..." I wonder whether it's a science
illiterate writer, a typo or bullshit, since phosphate is NOT a metal.
Then I read "... cobalt and phosphate cost roughly $2.25 an ounce and
$.05 an ounce, respectively" Sorry, that all reads like total bullshit
to me.

Toby Ponsenby

On Mon, 18 Aug 2008 18:16:51 +1000, Atheist Chaplain wrote:

> "Daryl Walford" <dwalford@internode.on.net> wrote in message
> news0b92846$0$20302$c3e8da3@news.astraweb.com...
>> Atheist Chaplain wrote:
>>> will this be just another "doomed to failure" technology
>>> http://www.sciam.com/article.cfm?id=...r-on-the-cheap
>>>
>>> "We [have] figured out a way just using a glass of water at room
>>> temperature, under atmospheric pressure," Nocera says. "This thing [a
>>> thin film of cobalt and phosphate on an electrode] just churns away
>>> making [oxygen] from water."
>>>
>>
>> Interesting science but IMO hydrogen is still a long way off being a
>> common fuel source for cars, in the meantime LPG is the obvious answer,
>> its cheap and clean and we have lots of it.
>>
>>
>> Daryl
>
> agreed, but its nice to see when a new breakthrough pops it's little head
> up, the more little breakthroughs we get, the closer we are to one that will
> make the whole world go "Well I'll be ****ed!!" :-)

Good idea to keep your eye on SlashDot, then:-)
(There's a story there now about Monash actually doing something useful
ILO the usual traffic studies bullshite.)

--
Toby

Man goes on mission to catch the world's biggest stingrays.
What could possibly go... CRIKEY

Drew Curtis from Fark.com linking to a story - July 2008

^Mort Temuchin^

Atheist Chaplain wrote:
> will this be just another "doomed to failure" technology
> http://www.sciam.com/article.cfm?id=...r-on-the-cheap
>
> "We [have] figured out a way just using a glass of water at room
> temperature, under atmospheric pressure," Nocera says. "This thing [a thin
> film of cobalt and phosphate on an electrode] just churns away making
> [oxygen] from water."
>

You could try
http://cgi.ebay.com.au/ws/eBayISAPI....m=140243104281

Wonder how that would go on the new Audi