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Old 18th August 2008, 12:12 PM   #1 (permalink)
RogerM
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SUV means Sports Utility Vehicle, NOT Sports Ute Vehicle

http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/utility

Please, learn some basic English by reading it and stop confusing the
Utility in SUV as a Ute as clearly, we all know it's not. It was a stupid
choice of name for these vehicles as we can clearly see by past confused
comments in here.

I would have thought a more appropriate name for us Aussies would have been
SOR for Soft Off Roader which really is self descriptive.

However, having said that, I loathe the way this country is becoming so
Americanised with the English language. How long before we start seeing
"Trailer Parks" to replace the well know Aussie Caravan Parks. To me and
probably most other Aussies, a trailer is a box trailer or car carrier
trailer.

Roger

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Old 18th August 2008, 01:02 PM   #2 (permalink)
Noddy
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Re: SUV means Sports Utility Vehicle, NOT Sports Ute Vehicle


"RogerM" <rogerm@justrucks.com.au> wrote in message
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> http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/utility
>
> Please, learn some basic English by reading it and stop confusing the
> Utility in SUV as a Ute as clearly, we all know it's not. It was a stupid
> choice of name for these vehicles as we can clearly see by past confused
> comments in here.


Not that I'm a supporter of the term "SUV " (or any other wanky Amerikanism
for that matter), but I'm curious as to what word you think "Ute" actually
is a contraction of?

> I would have thought a more appropriate name for us Aussies would have
> been SOR for Soft Off Roader which really is self descriptive.


What's wrong with wagon, which is what they are?

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Old 18th August 2008, 01:30 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Re: SUV means Sports Utility Vehicle, NOT Sports Ute Vehicle


"Noddy" <me@home.com> wrote in message
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>
> "RogerM" <rogerm@justrucks.com.au> wrote in message
> news0b8c49d$0$14351$c3e8da3@news.astraweb.com...
>> http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/utility
>>
>> Please, learn some basic English by reading it and stop confusing the
>> Utility in SUV as a Ute as clearly, we all know it's not. It was a stupid
>> choice of name for these vehicles as we can clearly see by past confused
>> comments in here.

>
> Not that I'm a supporter of the term "SUV " (or any other wanky
> Amerikanism for that matter), but I'm curious as to what word you think
> "Ute" actually is a contraction of?


Obviously you never looked at the website I posted.
You too, clearly, are also confused with the word Utility in Sports Utility
Vehicle. It does not mean Ute..In this instance, the word Utility refers to
from the website I posted above.

utility (plural utilities)
(economics) The ability of a commodity to satisfy needs or wants.
The state or condition of being useful; usefulness.
Something that is useful.
A service provider, such as an electric company and water company.

>> I would have thought a more appropriate name for us Aussies would have
>> been SOR for Soft Off Roader which really is self descriptive.

>
> What's wrong with wagon, which is what they are?


No, they are more than just a wagon. Why would you see a similar comparison
between a Holden Commodore wagon and a Toyota Prado? Now do you see the
silliness of your statement. What's wrong with my suggestion? SOR or SOV?

Roger


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Old 18th August 2008, 01:30 PM   #4 (permalink)
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"RogerM" <rogerm@justrucks.com.au> wrote in message
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> No, they are more than just a wagon. Why would you see a similar
> comparison between a Holden Commodore wagon and a Toyota Prado? Now do you
> see the silliness of your statement. What's wrong with my suggestion? SOR
> or SOV?


Because silly ****ing acronyms are a wank. They're a *wagon*. Get over it.

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Old 18th August 2008, 02:09 PM   #5 (permalink)
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Re: SUV means Sports Utility Vehicle, NOT Sports Ute Vehicle

On Aug 18, 12:24*pm, "Noddy" <m...@home.com> wrote:
> "RogerM" <rog...@justrucks.com.au> wrote in message
>
> news0b8d535$0$15868$c3e8da3@news.astraweb.com...
>
> > No, they are more than just a wagon. Why would you see a similar
> > comparison between a Holden Commodore wagon and a Toyota Prado? Now do you
> > see the silliness of your statement. What's wrong with my suggestion? SOR
> > or SOV?

>
> Because silly ****ing acronyms are a wank. They're a *wagon*. Get over it..


But it could be an Estate.
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Old 18th August 2008, 02:09 PM   #6 (permalink)
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Re: SUV means Sports Utility Vehicle, NOT Sports Ute Vehicle

On Aug 18, 10:59 am, "RogerM" <rog...@justrucks.com.au> wrote:
> http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/utility
>
> Please, learn some basic English by reading it and stop confusing the
> Utility in SUV as a Ute as clearly, we all know it's not. It was a stupid
> choice of name for these vehicles as we can clearly see by past confused
> comments in here.
>
> I would have thought a more appropriate name for us Aussies would have been
> SOR for Soft Off Roader which really is self descriptive.
>
> However, having said that, I loathe the way this country is becoming so
> Americanised with the English language. How long before we start seeing
> "Trailer Parks" to replace the well know Aussie Caravan Parks. To me and
> probably most other Aussies, a trailer is a box trailer or car carrier
> trailer.
>
> Roger


Faaaaaark! Why is everyone so against 'SUV'? It's not even a word as
such, just a ****ing descriptor FFS! What had we been calling them
previously? Off-roaders? 4WD's? There are currently several 'SUV's' on
the market that are neither 4WD or off-roaders, but are still quite
different to car-based wagons. Describe something as an SUV and
everyone has a pretty good idea what you're referring to, so what's
the big ****ing deal?
Get over it and stop being so ****ing precious about a language that
was born through bastardisation anyway!
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Old 18th August 2008, 10:32 PM   #7 (permalink)
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Re: SUV means Sports Utility Vehicle, NOT Sports Ute Vehicle


"jackbadger56" <castle56@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> Faaaaaark! Why is everyone so against 'SUV'? It's not even a word as
> such, just a ****ing descriptor FFS! What had we been calling them
> previously? Off-roaders? 4WD's? There are currently several 'SUV's' on
> the market that are neither 4WD or off-roaders, but are still quite
> different to car-based wagons.


How exactly?

The only difference to your average "soft roader" and your average sedan
based wagon is a bit of extra roof height and drive to an extra axle.

> Describe something as an SUV and everyone has a pretty good idea what
> you're referring to, so what's
> the big ****ing deal?


The "big deal" is that "SUV" is a pretty non descript wanky Americanism that
we just don't need.

> Get over it and stop being so ****ing precious about a language that
> was born through bastardisation anyway!


Thanks for that, but I'm rather proud of our unique version of English and
can live quite happily without useless wankery being introduced.

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Old 18th August 2008, 11:05 PM   #8 (permalink)
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Re: SUV means Sports Utility Vehicle, NOT Sports Ute Vehicle

jackbadger56 wrote:
> On Aug 18, 10:59 am, "RogerM" <rog...@justrucks.com.au> wrote:
>> http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/utility
>>
>> Please, learn some basic English by reading it and stop confusing the
>> Utility in SUV as a Ute as clearly, we all know it's not. It was a stupid
>> choice of name for these vehicles as we can clearly see by past confused
>> comments in here.
>>
>> I would have thought a more appropriate name for us Aussies would have been
>> SOR for Soft Off Roader which really is self descriptive.
>>
>> However, having said that, I loathe the way this country is becoming so
>> Americanised with the English language. How long before we start seeing
>> "Trailer Parks" to replace the well know Aussie Caravan Parks. To me and
>> probably most other Aussies, a trailer is a box trailer or car carrier
>> trailer.
>>
>> Roger

>
> Faaaaaark! Why is everyone so against 'SUV'? It's not even a word as
> such, just a ****ing descriptor FFS!


My objection to the term is it isn't descriptive.
Its too broad a term that doesn't describe any vehicle.

What had we been calling them
> previously? Off-roaders? 4WD's?


4WD is the correct term for Landcruisers, Patrols and other similar
vehicles.
AWD wagon is a good description of smaller vehicles like XTrail and RAV4.

There are currently several 'SUV's' on
> the market that are neither 4WD or off-roaders, but are still quite
> different to car-based wagons.


Name them.

Describe something as an SUV and
> everyone has a pretty good idea what you're referring to,


I disagree, I have no idea what an "SUV" is, if you have a proper
definition lets have it.

so what's
> the big ****ing deal?
> Get over it and stop being so ****ing precious about a language that
> was born through bastardisation anyway!


The main objection is its a non descriptive US term and I won't get over
it until ****wits stop using it.


Daryl
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Old 19th August 2008, 10:41 AM   #9 (permalink)
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Re: SUV means Sports Utility Vehicle, NOT Sports Ute Vehicle

On Aug 18, 9:49 pm, Daryl Walford <dwalf...@internode.on.net> wrote:

>
> >There are currently several 'SUV's' on

>
> > the market that are neither 4WD or off-roaders, but are still quite
> > different to car-based wagons.

>
> Name them.
>


Santa Fe FWD, Kluger FWD, Territory RWD. Probably a lot more to come
too.


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Old 19th August 2008, 10:41 AM   #10 (permalink)
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Re: SUV means Sports Utility Vehicle, NOT Sports Ute Vehicle

On Mon, 18 Aug 2008 21:495 +1000, Daryl Walford
<dwalford@internode.on.net> wrote:


>4WD is the correct term for Landcruisers, Patrols and other similar
>vehicles.
>AWD wagon is a good description of smaller vehicles like XTrail and RAV4.


And Liberty Wagon?




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